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Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 27, 2023 12:39PM
Did something with my phone too close to the OMNY reader on the bus. I still don't know how I trigger this, but it grabs a fare from a card in my Apple wallet. So I paid full fare in addition to the Reduced fare I paid with my OldeFarte Metrocard.

I never use OMNY because it doesn't meet my nedds. I would have to give up my Metrocard to get a reduced fare with OMNY. This would mean giving up the 7-day and 30-day unlimited fares which are pretty much the only ones I have used for at least 10 years. OMNY still cannot do what the Metrocard can.

The OMNY rollout has been pathetic, useful only if you are someone who rarely uses transit, or only uses it to get to and from work M-F on 2 fares a day.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2023 12:40PM by ka jowct.
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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: Joseph C.
Date: November 27, 2023 01:08PM
I gave up on OMNY. It kept double charging me.
I took it out of Apple Wallet on my phone and watch.

I'll keep using the MetroCard.
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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: November 27, 2023 01:38PM
….they said fazing out metrocard by next year…..even with metrocard getting any help is by mail……..



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 27, 2023 01:47PM
So if I travel to NYC, how do I pay for Subways now? last time I used the subway I used metrocards.
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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: gabester
Date: November 27, 2023 01:59PM
I used a Metrocard this spring. I wouldn't have known to avoid OMNY but it wasn't an easily discernible option coming in from Newark.



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 27, 2023 05:23PM
been using OMNY with no issues, but as ka jowct said, I'm an infrequent rider, at best.
I use AmEx personal.
This way if OMNY f'ks up, I sick AmEx on them.
grrrrrrr wooooof!



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 27, 2023 05:48PM
If they phase out the Metrocard without addressing OMNY's lack of 7-day and 30-day unlimited options, that will amount to a huge undeclared fare increase.

I have an irregular work schedule to different locations, and I rely on the unlimited fares to keep my costs (and what I charge my clients) reasonable. Those fares also give me the freedom to hop on a bus for just a couple of stops when the weather is bad, or when I'm in pain and/or very tired. MTA needs to get OMNY working for everyone who uses the system.



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: November 27, 2023 05:49PM
The only way for Wallet to present is by double tapping the lock button which brings up all your cards with the default one presenting to the reader. You must have done that and had the OMNY card as the top/default card as that is the only way to get the phone to present a card to be read.



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 27, 2023 05:53PM
write the Gov. She appears to be paying at least some attention.
At least more than the last 40 years worth.

And fill out the MTA surveys when they come.



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: d4
Date: November 27, 2023 06:11PM
ka jowct, Does this not work for you?

Say hello to an easier, more equitable way to pay your fare: the 7-day fare cap with OMNY! Effective August 20, you can start any day of the week: pay for 12 rides in a 7-day period and any additional rides are free. And, unlike with MetroCard, you don’t have to pay upfront. Just tap and pay as you go.

Use the same device or card all 7 days and you’ll automatically ride free after your 12th paid fare.

No need to pre-pay like when you buy a 7-Day Unlimited MetroCard. Tap with your own mobile wallet enabled device or contactless bank card, and you pay only for the trips you take. The more you ride, the sooner you’ll earn free trips.




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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: d4
Date: November 27, 2023 06:19PM
Also, TURN OFF "Express Transit Card" setting on your iPhone.
Go to Settings, click Wallet and Apple Pay, click Express Transit Card, select None as your payment card.

This may help with accidental fare payment on OMNY in the future.



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 27, 2023 10:00PM
The only way for Wallet to present is by double tapping the lock button which brings up all your cards with the default one presenting to the reader.


Use Express Mode with transit cards, passes, and keys in Apple Wallet
With Express Mode, you can use cards, passes, and keys in the Wallet app with just a tap.

With Express Mode, you can use some of your cards, keys, and passes in Apple Wallet without waking or unlocking your device, or authenticating with Face ID, Touch ID, or your passcode. You might even be able to use your card, pass, or key when your device needs to be charged.



I would definitely check to see if Express Mode is enabled.

If it's not, and the OMNY is never used, why not remove it.

Or is it used elsewhere?






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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 28, 2023 06:52AM
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d4
ka jowct, Does this not work for you?

Say hello to an easier, more equitable way to pay your fare: the 7-day fare cap with OMNY! Effective August 20, you can start any day of the week: pay for 12 rides in a 7-day period and any additional rides are free. And, unlike with MetroCard, you don’t have to pay upfront. Just tap and pay as you go.

Use the same device or card all 7 days and you’ll automatically ride free after your 12th paid fare.

No need to pre-pay like when you buy a 7-Day Unlimited MetroCard. Tap with your own mobile wallet enabled device or contactless bank card, and you pay only for the trips you take. The more you ride, the sooner you’ll earn free trips.

it's a step in the right direction, but I need the 30-day far more than I need the 7-day. Without that, OMNY will still function as an unofficial fare increase. I will keep my Metrocard until they claw it from my cold, dead hands. Something like 40% of those using Metrocards rather than OMNY are buying the unlimited fare options.

12 rides in each 7 day period ends up costing more than the 30-day fare, which is $66.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2023 12:16PM by ka jowct.
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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: mspace
Date: November 28, 2023 08:37AM
I refuse to have it on my phone. Prefer to keep these things separate, in case something happens with phone. Waiting for the half price OMNY card to be sent as promised by the MTA. Will stick with my current card until then.
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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 28, 2023 12:13PM
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d4
Also, TURN OFF "Express Transit Card" setting on your iPhone.
Go to Settings, click Wallet and Apple Pay, click Express Transit Card, select None as your payment card.

This may help with accidental fare payment on OMNY in the future.

Done, thank you! More help than I've gotten from OMNY, for sure.



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Re: Freaking OMNY robbed me again
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 28, 2023 12:18PM
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RAMd®d
The only way for Wallet to present is by double tapping the lock button which brings up all your cards with the default one presenting to the reader.


Use Express Mode with transit cards, passes, and keys in Apple Wallet
With Express Mode, you can use cards, passes, and keys in the Wallet app with just a tap.

With Express Mode, you can use some of your cards, keys, and passes in Apple Wallet without waking or unlocking your device, or authenticating with Face ID, Touch ID, or your passcode. You might even be able to use your card, pass, or key when your device needs to be charged.


Wow. Did not even know about these settings.
I would definitely check to see if Express Mode is enabled.

If it's not, and the OMNY is never used, why not remove it.

Or is it used elsewhere?



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