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"Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: jh
Date: December 07, 2023 12:47AM
Today is December 7th, which is the 82nd anniversary of the bombing of Pearl Harbor.



USS Arizona



Draft No. 1 page 1 of FDR's speech to Congress on December 8th 1941. Corrections are in his handwriting. More information about the history of the speech here. Interesting reading.

Film of speech here.

Radio announcements of the attack on Pearl Harbor here.

USS Arizona survivor tells his story. He was on the fantail when it exploded and one of the divers inside the ship removing the dead.

USS Arizona survivor who finally talks about his experience 75 years later writing a book about it. He had major burns on his skin after the explosion and he pulled his burning skin off his arms to continue firing his machine gun at the Japanese.
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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: Ken Sp.
Date: December 07, 2023 04:51AM
Ironically for me, I am in the air over the Pacific, returning from a two week sightseeing tour of Japan.
One of the last places we visited was Ground Zero in Hiroshima.
The solemn feeling I felt in the Peace Museum, was similar to how I felt, decades ago, visiting the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor.
The Japanese people are wonderful. Culturally, many chose to look forward, rather than to the past regarding the devastation.



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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: robfilms
Date: December 07, 2023 10:35AM
My father enlisted the next day on December 8, 1941 at Whitehall Street in lower Manhattan.

He was in the Army Air Force for the entire war ferrying DC3s to various war zones via Nova Scotia/Greenland/Iceland on the northern route and Puerto Rico/Brazil/Azores on the southern route.

Thanks for reminding us of the many sacrifices so many made.

Dare I say the obvious, freedom is never free.

Be well.

Rob
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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: December 07, 2023 11:16AM
A good day to watch Tora! Tora! Tora!.

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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: Buzz
Date: December 07, 2023 11:16AM
My aunt was born Dec 7, 1919, and got married on her 21st birthday, Dec 7, 1940. Who knew?
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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: rz
Date: December 07, 2023 11:28AM
Also today, December 7, 1787, Delaware became the first state.

Back in high school, a local radio station (WMMR in Philadelphia) used to have their annual Xmas party on December 7th. In the radio promos, whenever they mentioned the date, they'd always follow it with the clip of FDR saying "... a date which will live in infamy..."
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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: rz
Date: December 07, 2023 11:31AM
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Ken Sp.
Ironically for me, I am in the air over the Pacific, returning from a two week sightseeing tour of Japan.
One of the last places we visited was Ground Zero in Hiroshima.
The solemn feeling I felt in the Peace Museum, was similar to how I felt, decades ago, visiting the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor.
The Japanese people are wonderful. Culturally, many chose to look forward, rather than to the past regarding the devastation.

I visited the Peace Museum in Nagasaki earlier this year. Very solemn, very powerful. I've also visited the USS Arizona memorial. I agree with your assessment of the Japanese people. I've been to Japan 4 times, and absolutely love the country and its people.
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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: Numo
Date: December 07, 2023 12:33PM
It’s good to pause for a moment to think of the men who died or were injured that day and what we still owe them today.
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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: December 07, 2023 03:48PM
There is only a single USS Arizona survivor alive, Lou Center, now 101 years old.



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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 07, 2023 08:13PM
I always let me kids know "today is dec 7" and "today is june 6" for pearl harbor and D-Day... but think there are other days in WW2 that prob don't get the same recognition.

I mean they have all had movies -- midway, battle of the bulge, iwo jima -- but the since they are multiple days, maybe lost.

I don't know if any one of them might be the most important... D Day I would assume.





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Re: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 a date which will live in infamy....."
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: December 08, 2023 01:46AM
It’s good to pause for a moment to think of the men who died or were injured that day and what we still owe them today.


Even as a vet, I don't think much about 7 DEC except for the above.

I'm over the infamy part, and I've let that go quite some time ago.

The sacrifices made, the bravery demonstrated are the only things that hold meaning for me.

That's not quite accurate.

I don't ever think of our losses at Pearl without thinking about the tens of thousands of civilian lives lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.






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We will remember them.

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