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TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 07:59AM
Whoopeee!!! Toilets!! Yahoo!

I'm kind of stuck.

I need a toilet in a "victorian" style . . . it has to be 10" rough-in. All I'm finding is 12". Would like a style something like this:
[www.briggsplumbing.com]

Anyone got any leads?

Thanks!



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: February 04, 2006 08:10AM
why.... I'm sitting on one right now!

AND YOU CAN'T HAVE IT UNTIL I'M DONE.

Do you know the rest stop on I-85 and I-75, where it merges? Whenever I want Victorian, that's the place!
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ALMEIDA!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: February 04, 2006 08:18AM
WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!!!!
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: elmo3
Date: February 04, 2006 08:29AM
[www.totousa.com]

Get anything with the GMAX flushing system.

These are hands down the best toilets you'll ever see. No complicated flushing system, just good, pure, engineering. They have 5 or 6 10" rough-in units.

Don't get any power flushing systems--too noisy and too complicated, and too much more to break and go wrong.



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In the words of DharmaDog: "it may or may not be utter horse@#$%&, but it shouldn't be dismissed simply because it doesn't agree with your opinion."

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Trying is the first step to failure. -- Homer Simpson
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: February 04, 2006 08:33AM
Is this for you or a rental?

Just curious.


If it's for one of your rentals, I wouldn't give them shii...... um, a new one.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2006 08:35AM by Jimmypoo.
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 08:38AM
Elmo, there are some great toliets there-- Clayton,Dartmouth, Lloyd-- but I don't see a single toilet that's not 12" rough-in.



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 08:40AM
For me. My old toilet would be kept on hand for a rental emergency (oh wait-- I guess I don't know what the rough-ins are at the buiilding . . .)



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 09:04AM
I didn't see you could select by rough-in at the toto site.
Looks like there is one option within my parameters:
[www.totousa.com]

Anyone know what that bit about the larger than average water-supply rough-in means to me?



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: February 04, 2006 09:08AM
Isn't that just a statement that the water in the tank will enter the bowl faster (therefore with more force) with the 3" vs. the 2"?
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: February 04, 2006 09:35AM
elmo3 Wrote:
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> These are hands down the best toilets you'll ever
> see.

Trying hard not to picture this.
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 09:44AM
Jimmypoo Wrote:
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> Isn't that just a statement that the water in the
> tank will enter the bowl faster (therefore with
> more force) with the 3" vs. the 2"?


Dunno-- not sure why it would say "consult your contractor".



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: elmo3
Date: February 04, 2006 09:48AM
h' Wrote:
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> Elmo, there are some great toliets there--
> Clayton,Dartmouth, Lloyd-- but I don't see a
> single toilet that's not 12" rough-in.


Go here:

h**p://www.totousa.com/ResidentialToiletSearch.asp

and choose your rough-in.



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In the words of DharmaDog: "it may or may not be utter horse@#$%&, but it shouldn't be dismissed simply because it doesn't agree with your opinion."

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Trying is the first step to failure. -- Homer Simpson
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: billb
Date: February 04, 2006 10:07AM
Victorian style, or victorian era ?
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 04, 2006 11:07AM
.. .go to the local "home" stores and try them out. . .

Sit on them that is. . .don't "try" them out. . .



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I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 11:21AM
billb Wrote:
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> Victorian style, or victorian era ?
>
Point taken. My house had no toilet when it was built.

Looking for teens/twenties style. "Victorian" would probably be the right word to match the woodwork (1898 building) but art-deco would be the quality of the period I'm going for, right?





I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 11:24AM
*sigh* looks like the Carrolton is my only real option.
~$500 at the place I bought my other fixtures, and in stock in the right color. The bit about the water supply is that the base is kind of wide and if the water supply is too close it will be a problem. Mine's about 3-4" to the left of the edge of the current toilet base, so I think I'm safe.



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: billb
Date: February 04, 2006 12:11PM
Your house's first toilet probably had a tank bolted to the wall, a crapper bolted to the floor (similar to today) and a lead pipe connecting the two.
You'd find holes in the wall studs (or rusted lag bolts ) behind where the hole in th floor is ( or was ).

If you have a PVC drain you can find offsets to locate the toilet within 2" where you want.
You probably have cast iron, though.

If you have access to the ceiling below the toilet, it's easy enough to move the water supply. Very easy if you have copper pipe. I'll bet you have threaded iron, though.

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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: elmo3
Date: February 04, 2006 12:35PM
Get the softclose seat. Well worth it.

Toto makes the Macintosh of toilets.



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In the words of DharmaDog: "it may or may not be utter horse@#$%&, but it shouldn't be dismissed simply because it doesn't agree with your opinion."

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Trying is the first step to failure. -- Homer Simpson
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: billb
Date: February 04, 2006 12:55PM
You speaking from experience, G-man ?
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: msglee
Date: February 04, 2006 02:07PM
Wait till you try one of these.

[search.netscape.com]



Bowleys Quarters MD
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: February 04, 2006 02:17PM
> Get anything with the GMAX flushing system. These are hands down the best toilets you'll ever see
> Toto makes the Macintosh of toilets.

Nope.

No siphonic system like Toto's G-Max can compare with the wash down technology of Caroma toilets.

[www.caromausa.com]

The Toto G-Max supports a 2-1/8" trapway. The Caroma system uses a 4" trapway--the same size as domestic drainpipes. It simply will not plug.

BTW, h': all Caroma toilets support 10-12" rough-in via a unique offset drain adapter.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2006 02:19PM by Article Accelerator.
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Michael
Date: February 04, 2006 02:39PM
Article Accelerator Wrote:
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> BTW, h': all Caroma toilets support 10-12"
> rough-in via a unique offset drain adapter.


I think I saw a generic drain adapter demonstrated on the "Ask This Old House" show a couple of months ago. Perhaps it's worth a call to a plumbing supply house.
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Guitarman
Date: February 04, 2006 03:14PM
that's funny. my building uses a no tank flush system, just like you see in office buildings.



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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Stavs
Date: February 04, 2006 05:22PM
I have to chime in and profess my love for the Toto...I spend plenty of time on that thing, and not just reading. I put this baby through a healthy workout every morning...wait till Monday morning after the Super Bowl. Toto toilets rock!

Stavs
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: February 04, 2006 06:19PM
"The Macintosh of toilets"


Dude........ you've done it now. Jobs and the lawyers are going to CRUSH you for that.
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Caroma
Posted by: h'
Date: February 04, 2006 07:06PM
I git really excited about that but then I found that there's not a single toilet that comes even close to the style I want (can't get a sense of what they cost either).



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: February 05, 2006 09:32AM
Jimmypoo Wrote:
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> "The Macintosh of toilets"
>
>
> Dude........ you've done it now. Jobs and the
> lawyers are going to CRUSH you for that.













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Re: TOILETS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gutenberg
Date: June 27, 2008 02:12PM
In your price range Consumer Reports recommends the Gerber Ultra Flush and the American Standard Champion.
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