Here's how i installed leopard -

1. clone system to external drive
2. install system over external clone
3. make sure leopard works
4. put external clone on internal drive (having some trouble here)

SuperDuper appears to work but when i boot into the clone, it looks like a bunch of prefs have been lost - default dock and desktop background. when i try to launch mail, it says something about the prefs being read only and doesn't do anything more. Disk Utility verifies the disk but repair permissions reports "The underlying task reported failure on exit" Huh? For repairing permissions on a non-boot drive??

Disk Utility restore fails in a similar manner - reporting "Could not validate sizes - Operation not permitted"

Has anyone successfully cloned a leopard install?

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It seems an easier/cleaner way is to install Leopard on the external-Boot to the external-and use migration assistant from there to migrate the info to the external--then install in machine.

If you install over a clone--you have any inherent lingering problems still--my way you have a clean install--with migrated data.---Worked for me.

If it is a new drive--you will have to go to disk utility--and partition>option>set GUID if it is an intel machine.

>>my way you have a clean install--with migrated data.---Worked for me.

Yes, but does it take you about two weeks before you stop running installers and configuring the machine the way you need it? Its good advice for people with simple installs but I don't have a simple install.

Have you tried making a clone? Working backups are important.

(I'm currently attempting a SuperDuper/Disk Util hybrid clone - back up with SuperDuper to an image and then restore with Disk Util. Its worth a shot.)

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If you can't rebuild your machine within a day with everything you have organizational issues. I've never built a machine that took longer than that, including software updates(unless you have dialup). I've built fullout production machines with Adobe Master Collection, tons of fonts, loads of emails, plugins and extensions galore.

I guess the key is knowing what you have loaded, where the software is, were the preference files for all the apps are located, and where those apps store their data files.


Someone should make a list online with all the common apps that list that kind of info. Would make it easier for a novice to migrate.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2007 10:36AM by C(-)ris.

>>If you can't rebuild your machine within a day with everything you have organizational issues.

Well, aren't we judgmental?

I do a lot of web design and development, so not only do i need the Adobe suite, but Xcode, mysql and a dozen little things in between. No, you probably haven't set up a machine like this because nobody would expect it to be done right.

This isn't a problem as long as I can back up my boot drive. I hesitate to call leopard usable yet if its impossible to make a bootable clone.

So, has anyone made a bootable clone yet?

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No matt, I have not done so. At any rate I think my upgrade philosophy is different than your approach.

What about this:

1) Clone your normal Tiger drive. This cloned drive should be able to exactly take the place of your normal HD, such as if that HD blew up (or had a bad copy of Leopard on it.)

2) Install Leopard right on top of your normal Tiger drive. Everything works, or is easily fixed --- you're done*. If it's really @#$%&, you can start again by swapping Tiger back in.

3) "There is no step three"

* Well, it sounds as if you'd still be without a cloned Leopard drive, but that condition can't last too long, with the SuperDuper!/CCC folks working hard, and probably right now, to correct that. Perhaps it simply means Leopard isn't production-ready, but being a 1.0 release that's no real surprise. I just read yesterday that developers did NOT get Golden Master copies any quicker than Friday, either.

Some employees had issues with SuperDuper Friday when we were cloning Leopard at OWC. CarbonCopyCloner works flawlessly - and it's what I use (and just used actually overnight).

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Good Luck!
Jamie Dresser
Other World Computing

I also have to wonder about those who have used SuperDuper. Not that I ever have - but I have always found CCC to do the trick for me... and thus, don't understand why anyone would need anything else.
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I used SD to clone Leopard from a FW drive that was formatted GUID. I had to do this because I had to use my MacBook to install Leopard. Leopard said my souped up G4 didn't qualify. I had to reformat the FW to GUID so Leopard could be installed on it.

Connected the FW to my G4 and used Super Duper to clone Leopard to my internal HFS+ drive. It worked. I used the Migration Assistant to bring my Home folder from my Tiger hard drivel. I'm using Leopard now as I type this. It sleeps, wakes and generally behaves as it should.

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Ed (modelamac)

I think I will just put an OUT OF ORDER
sticker on my head and call it a day.

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I also have to wonder about those who have used SuperDuper. Not that I ever have - but I have always found CCC to do the trick for me... and thus, don't understand why anyone would need anything else.
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Because CCC was totally hosed for about 18 months.

BGnR

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Because CCC was totally hosed for about 18 months.

BGnR

That is just total BS. Possibly you were the one totally hosed during that time.

Just a thought...

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Because CCC was totally hosed for about 18 months.

BGnR

That is just total BS. Possibly you were the one totally hosed during that time.

Just a thought...

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CCC worked great for me under Jaguar doing mirror/bootable backups but was unreliable under Panther. I switched to SuperDuper and have had no problems.

I share Mattkimes anxiety about the high priority for successful mirrored/bootable backups because I also have a complex setup and can't afford to be down from a system/hardware failure. Mirrored backup have saved my sanity through the years on more than one occassion.

CCC did the job! The forum reigns supreme!

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Good to know CCC works again - I had problems with CCC 3.0 and Tiger disks.

Did you use 3.01?

>>Did you use 3.01?

Yessir.

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> I have always found CCC to do the trick for me... and thus, don't understand why anyone
> would need anything else.

When Tiger first shipped, CCC had some problems and lots of people migrated to SD at that time and stuck with SD.

Some independent testing also confirmed that CCC did not (prior to the block-level copy feature) transfer all of a file's metadata.

...and for whatever reason(s), sometimes one app simply works to produce a bootable clone where the other won't.

As a result, I recommend that people keep both on hand.