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going back to Tiger
Posted by: abevilac
Date: November 12, 2007 08:22PM
Daughter decided she wanted to go Leopard on her iBook 1.07GHz G4 w/ 768 RAM but after a week of totally sluggish computing, she wants to go back to Tiger. The only apps she uses are iLife and iWork.

What's the best way to restore her computer? Copy all of her files to an external drive and then totally wipe her disk and then reinstall Tiger?

[In addition to the slowness, it's been acting wonky so I just thought it might be a good idea to start w/ a clean slate.]

Thanks.
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: November 12, 2007 08:33PM
Hey Ann - buy that girl some more RAM !

: -)

Your plan sounds fine to me - copy her folder over to a back up drive and then do a clean install
and then reinstall iLife and iWork and move her folder back ....

and buy her some RAM !



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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: abevilac
Date: November 12, 2007 08:37PM
Hey, Phil - She's a senior in HS and just wants this machine to last until May, then she figures she'll get a new one for college -- just hoping to limp along til then..
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: incognegro
Date: November 12, 2007 08:37PM
wow, shades of those new Apple "PC vs Mac" commercials, except we're the ones moving back to an older OS.



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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: November 12, 2007 08:50PM
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incognegro
wow, shades of those new Apple "PC vs Mac" commercials, except we're the ones moving back to an older OS.



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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: PeterB
Date: November 12, 2007 09:08PM
Hmmmm....

On that note (Leopard vs. Vista), let me post something recently said to me by the head of our IT dept:

"Because I wanted my team to test Leopard to see if was stable, we actually have it installed on two of our desktops, same size as yours. It was because of the opinion of the two “testers” that I decided to put it on my personal Mac. My cost was $130.00 with a $40 rebate (bought it last week).

BTW: we also installed Vista on two computers for the same reason, i.e., to evaluate stability and to decide whether or not we should go to the expense of upgrading. Vista, unlike Leopard, is unstable. I have not and do not plan to, put Vista on my personal PC. For students who have Vista on their PCs, we did want to make sure that they could connect to the wireless network. This has put about 10 years of additional life on one of my IT guys. :-) Vista did fix an annoying problem with authentication. It is not enough to migrate at this point."

So there you have it... from an IT person coming from a corporate background: Leopard 1, Vista big zippo.




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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: iaJim
Date: November 12, 2007 09:44PM
What sort of installation did you do on the iBook? If it was an update, is it possible that you did not get a great installation? I don't think I'd give up so soon, but if it was working perfectly on Tiger, that is a pretty big temptation.
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: miK.
Date: November 12, 2007 09:45PM
I'm going back to Tiger, Tiger, Tiger
I'm going back to Tiger...

... I don't think so


[www.azlyrics.com]
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: November 12, 2007 09:48PM
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miK.
I'm going back to Tiger, Tiger, Tiger
I'm going back to Tiger...

... I don't think so


[www.azlyrics.com]

LOL. Before I clicked on this thread, that's exactly what I was thinking.




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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: abevilac
Date: November 12, 2007 09:49PM
I don't know how she did the install. My guess is that it was done in a rush w/out really looking at what she was clicking on. Leopard really was really slow opening up apps and even sometimes w/in an app, like Pages, the typing would get way ahead of the screen [kinda like in the good ole days]. Anyway, I think she'll be fine w/ Tiger until the end of the school year and then she's hoping for one of those Apple Back to School specials.
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: jimbrady
Date: November 12, 2007 10:03PM
Leopard requires at least a GB of RAM. Not sure how it was permitted to install on an inadequate hardware setup, but if she'd read the box, she'd have known the performance would've been sure to be @#$%&.



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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: abevilac
Date: November 12, 2007 10:22PM
Ahhhhh...back in Tigerland and all is well. In fact, it may be better than what it was like just before the Leopard install. Nice n zippy again.
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: cyclemax
Date: November 12, 2007 10:25PM
From Apple's Leopard Page:

General requirements

Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor


512MB of memory
DVD drive for installation
9GB of available disk space
Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.
Some features require Apple's .Mac service; fees apply.
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: abevilac
Date: November 12, 2007 10:26PM
Tech specs on Apple's Leopard page says 512MB min ram!!! They must be kidding...
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: Golfer
Date: November 12, 2007 10:32PM
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jimbrady
Leopard requires at least a GB of RAM. Not sure how it was permitted to install on an inadequate hardware setup, but if she'd read the box, she'd have known the performance would've been sure to be @#$%&.

I'm running Leopard on an 2 iBooks (1 Ghz and 1.33), both with 768 MB RAM, and it's doing fine. And I've seen it run fine on a 800 Mhz iMac with 512. I'm guessing something was already off with the system and she did an upgrade install, doubling the problem.
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: mattkime
Date: November 12, 2007 10:39PM
I'd try doing some troubleshooting first.

believe it or not, even your lowly ibook should be able to keep up with your typing under Leopard.

check activity monitor to see if any tasks are taking up a huge amount of resources. fix permissions and verify the drive integrity.



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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: incognegro
Date: November 12, 2007 11:21PM
her bikini, small
heels, tall
she said
she liked
the ocean
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: November 12, 2007 11:25PM
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abevilac
Tech specs on Apple's Leopard page says 512MB min ram!!! They must be kidding...

Yep, 512 for Leopard. If you want to run anything else, you need more. iLife is 512MB of RAM; 1GB recommended. So really, if you want to run Leopard and iLife well, you need about 1.5GB RAM.




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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: Silencio
Date: November 12, 2007 11:45PM
Feels pretty snappy on my 1.33GHz Powerbook with 1.25GB of RAM. Then again, I am a firm believer in the value of the Erase Install when moving on to a new version of Mac OS X.
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: bfd
Date: November 13, 2007 12:25AM
Once you go black (and orange), you'll always go back…

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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: john-o
Date: November 13, 2007 01:13AM
Dollars to donuts she simply needed a cache-cleaning routine (Yasu, or something similar), and it would've been fine...

Glad you got it restored and zippy in Tiger anyway!
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Re: going back to Tiger
Posted by: AAA
Date: November 13, 2007 06:10AM
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bfd
Once you go black (and orange), you'll always go back…


He been drinking? His eyes look red and glazed over.
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