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If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: lipskidder
Date: November 20, 2007 09:53AM
Through exercise and good eating? I got some results today that might say I am diabetic. Not sure yet. I will find out this afternoon.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: November 20, 2007 09:56AM
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lipskidder
Through exercise and good eating? I got some results today that might say I am diabetic. Not sure yet. I will find out this afternoon.
Yes/No.
What "Type" of Diabetes?
Why/How did you get Diabetes?
Age?
Family History?
Weight?
Eating Habits?

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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: November 20, 2007 09:57AM
Yes, depending on the nature of the diabetes. Dietary supplements, like cinnamon extract and guggul (sp?) can help, too.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: threeprong
Date: November 20, 2007 09:57AM
Type II Yes

Type I - not usually
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: November 20, 2007 09:57AM
I think it depends on the type of diabetes and the cause, etc. .. i've seen on tv where someone who was (due mainly to being overweight and no exercise), lost weight and was no longer diabetic. . .

talk to you doctor and see what he suggests. . .



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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: lipskidder
Date: November 20, 2007 09:58AM
Mom and brother have it. I never have. Been careful with eating but I do sit behind a computer all day. I chase two rugrats but don't go to the gym.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: chipsteĀ®
Date: November 20, 2007 10:15AM
I was diagnosed last year with type2. I take Metformin to keep it under control. I am committed to getting off the Met with excercise and diet. The diabetes brings a host of problems that nobody should endure. Extreme fatigue, numbness in extemeties, erectile dysfunction among a few. My fasting blood sugar this morning was 111 which is pretty good. Of course I take 1 gram Met twice a day. the upper limit on this drug is 2.5 a day. I need to start walking but my feet hurt like hell. In other words, yes it can be reversed if you take action. Hardest part for me was alcohol. I drank excessively every night and just finally quit a month and a half ago.



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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: SteveO
Date: November 20, 2007 11:04AM
Congrats on your amazing progress, chipsteĀ®. Keep up the good work!

My dad has type 2. He doesn't seem to be doing much in the way of getting himself healthy. It is a grave (literally) concern for me. My understanding is that with nutrition (note I didn't say "diet" such a misleadng word, people go on diets and then always gain the weight back) and exercise, type 2 can go away.

There are some people who still have it regardless, though. I know if I did, I'd be doing all I could to get rid of it. Good for you guys for doing that as well.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: punkindrublik
Date: November 20, 2007 11:33AM
I have been Type 1 since 1979. Type 1 and 2 are completely different. Only about 20% of Diabetics are Type 1. I just went on the OmniPod. Took 2 years to get into California. 2 weeks in, I love it. Not having to take 4 shots of Insulin a day (as I have for years) is a real pleasure. I'm still making adjustments to it but it's really easy to use and works very well. It's an alternative to a pump. Technically, it is a pump but I just have a small Pod on my body and it's controlled wirelessly by a PDM. I fill and cahnge the Pod every 3 days.

I have been told that "The cure is 5 years away" since 1979 and heard the same thing about a month ago.





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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: November 20, 2007 11:36AM
. . .they just had on the news the "failure" of Pfizers inhaled insulin product. . .and another company trying to introduce another inhaled insulin product. . .



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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: bfd
Date: November 20, 2007 11:38AM
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threeprong
Type II Yes

Type I - not usually

Type I - improbable, but possible. It's because your insulin producing cells are attacked and killed off by your immune system. Short of a pancreatic transplant and lots of immuno-suppressant drugs, a type I diabetic is going to need insulin for life.

Type ii - possibly, but less likely if a person has developed an insulin resistance rather than an inability to produce enough insulin.

Type III (gestational) - as soon as the baby's born, and obviously, only women have this type.



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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: lipskidder
Date: November 20, 2007 12:03PM
Oh, man I just started making sense of this piece of paper and it says my glucose level is 287. The top edge of borderline diabetes is 125. This is freaking scary. Gonna be fun at the doctor's.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: November 20, 2007 12:59PM
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lipskidder
Oh, man I just started making sense of this piece of paper and it says my glucose level is 287. The top edge of borderline diabetes is 125. This is freaking scary. Gonna be fun at the doctor's.

Was that the fasting glucose level?!!?
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: lipskidder
Date: November 20, 2007 01:14PM
yeah.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: November 20, 2007 02:33PM
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lipskidder
yeah.

Sorry to hear that. A change in diet is going to be in your near future. Mine came in at 100 not so long ago, and the doctor acted like an alarm bell went off - I pretty much had to empty out my pantry and freezer and reload it with low glycemic foods.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: Dick Moore
Date: November 20, 2007 03:06PM
Been Type 1 for 49 years now, and have heard and seen everything. Still waiting for the "cure". "Normal" Bg runs in the 75-90 area. Rises above 100 may be diagnostic or may not depending on a host of factors too long to list. Any doctor who's worried about a level of 100 without some very time consuming questions and testing is just causing needless concern for the patient.

Most diabetes specialists would like to see their patients, regardless of type of diabetes, have HgA1c levels indicative of average Bg of 150 or less, and most never ever see patients with that kind of control. Great target, though.

Wishing you well, lipskidder. Just remember, diabetes is not a death sentence...... and nobody lives forever.



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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: lipskidder
Date: November 20, 2007 03:06PM
No kidding. I knew it was time for change anyways. Nothing like no alternative to make things actually happen.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 20, 2007 03:35PM
My former mother-in-law had no alternative, but did not keep to diet and excercise for control of her diabetes. She passed away from complications connected to diabetes at the age of 68 or 69. So do not completely depend on the "no alternative" approach. Set yourself goals in consultation with your doctor and keep to them for your sake and your family's sake.



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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: h'
Date: November 20, 2007 03:59PM
Your handle is high in lipids-- you might watch your cholesterol too.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: Stavs
Date: November 20, 2007 05:48PM
I was diagnosed with diabetes a few years ago. My sugar was through the roof...at some times it would register above 400. I was pretty stubborn and kept drinking Pepsi like crazy cause I was hooked. I would drink 2 Pepsi Big Slams (1 liter) before 11am every day, and then have 2 or 3 20oz bottles before 5pm. When I got home, I would drink anywhere between 3-6 12oz cans. My A1C level at that time was 12.5. My doc has put me on different meds to try and control it. I started with Metformin the first time, and couldnt handle it... uncontrollable poopy pants on this stuff. Right now I am on Avandia, Glipzide, and Januvia. He insists on having me on all three to get it down. Over the past year I have successfully lower my A1C to 7.5 (I get checked every 3 months), and my fasting blood sugar is typically between 90 and 115. I had slowly killed my Pepsi addiction to none for about 6 months, but now I am having 1-2 a day, which I need to stop. I find that Wylers Lemonade with Splenda is my best friend these days. I have modified my diet slightly, but now I read the labels more and try to avoid high fructose corn syrup (I am a firm believer that HFCS is the culprit in the diabetes epidemic). I do eat more veggies and fruit as well. Oh....I'm 37 and about 210lbs...I was 240 when I was diagnosed.

Here's a good thread I started on diabetes: [forums.macresource.com]

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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: bobinmurphy
Date: November 20, 2007 05:50PM
Comments based on my experience, observations and research.

Initial higher than normal BG may be caused by the body trying to deal with stress, physical damage or cellular level problems. (http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/DiabetesDeception.html offers some non-scientific information.) If the underlying problem isn't fixed the high BG over time will cause vascular damage. (Also any Glucose that isn't consumed may be stored as fat increasing body weight.) The body responds to vascular damage by elevating the "bad" cholesterol levels. This type of cholesterol is used to "patch" weak spots in the blood vessels. Plugging the weak spots reduces the blood flow by constricting the vessels. This in turn causes higher blood pressure.

Doctors, especially MDs, are basically taught to treat symptoms and the first one they usually see is the increased BP. Treat that and the high cholesterol becomes more obvious, and treating that tends to expose the pre-diabetic condition.

The better diet and exercise probably has the biggest impact on treating the original underlying condition that caused the cascade system failure. But for many of us it took 30, 40 or 50 years of constant daily abuse to get to this point, so six weeks of exercise and a handful of cinnamon tablets isn't going to be a magic cure. It takes time and dedication and one shouldn't skip the traditional medical treatment in the meantime, just don't stop your treatment with the prescription pills!
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: kanesa
Date: November 20, 2007 09:59PM
I have been diagnosed with Metabolic Syndrome.

I am insulin resistance. I make enough insulin but my body does not respond to the insulin like it should.
My fasting blood sugar was always between 100-110.
My A1C was 6.0. That is borderline. 5.9 or less is normal.
I have to take metformin now.

I decided to do something about this. I want to live a longer life not a shorter one.
I have lost 35 lbs. I bought a treadmill and exercise at least 30 mins/day.

My A1C is now 5.7 which puts it in the normal range. The cardiologist is impressed that I actually did what he said.

Diabetes and insulin resistance affects your cholesterol, especially your LDL. It causes cardiac and vascualr concerns. I am now on a statin drug because my LDL is bad.

It's hell growing old.
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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: Dick Moore
Date: November 20, 2007 11:06PM
Oddly enough, I find myself giving thanks that I have Type 1 and not Type 2 -- not because the long-term outcomes are different, but because I think Type 1 is easier to treat and live with. Most Type 2's start from a hard place to deal with, which is obesity, or like Stavs, a serious eating/drinking disorder, and I personally have found being overweight hard to come to grips with; I've done it, but it's perhaps the toughest thing I know. At 68, my habits are pretty set, and being in the last decade or two of my life, I also don't have much incentive to change.

But, no complaints at all. I'm in pretty good shape for the shape I'm in, and life is very, very good. I've never been neurotic about diabetes, which has helped. I long ago decided that I am a person who has diabetes, not a diabetic person, if you get my drift. On the other hand, many of my age-mates with diabetes have passed on. God bless them, and all of you who deal with long-term life-threatening diseases of any and all kinds. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes once was asked the secret to long life. He said, "Have an incurable disease and nurse it along." Amen.



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Re: If you're diabetic, can you become UN-diabetic?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: November 21, 2007 01:16AM
I have Type 2 and take Metformin. My last A1C was 6.9. I'm about 15-20 pounds overweight and can't get it off.
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