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Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: DaviDC.
Date: December 31, 2007 09:52AM
[www.theregister.co.uk]
Where will it end? Is the RIAA completely out of touch with reality?



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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: SteveO
Date: December 31, 2007 10:02AM
1) It won't.
2) Yes, of course.

Their business model is now dead. Actually is has been for a few years but we are witnessing what amounts to grasping at straws. They've now shifted their artist contracts to take a piece of EVERYTHING...including ticket, merch and ancillary sales...which were traditionally the artist's reward for their own chutzpah.

They are laying off hundreds. Goodbye to the industry as we knew it, probably the greediest of all media (book publishers perhaps tie them but imho, there are a lot more small, agreeable book publishers than music publishers).

Sad for the people who are laid off, though, who in many cases are just worker bees.

Note: In no way do I condone P2P. I just think you should be able to buy a CD and encode it into iTunes for play on your iPod as you wish!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2007 10:07AM by SteveO.
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: December 31, 2007 10:04AM
Wow. I was hoping that your headline was an exaggeration.

The logical extension of this is that CDs you transfer to your ipod are illegal too.
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: MacArtist
Date: December 31, 2007 10:18AM
whatever happened to "fair use"?

I see. By "fair use" they mean whatever they determine to be fair to them at the given moment.

It's not enough that you bought the music in the first place. But wait; that was the argument against file sharing.

Now they have to prosecute a guy who bought the music and simply put it on his computer?

The RIAA is simply screwing themselves.

It is an organization in its last gasps. Unfortunately, they still have enough cash to buy politicians.

You can't treat your customers like they are criminals.

The RIAA's business model is broken. There isn't any way they are going to fix it. Making an example out of a few people is not going to change it.

We love music. We want to have a choice of when and what we play it on. We want to share the experience that music brings us with others (I am not condoning illegal file sharing).



I sit on a man’s back, choking him and making
him carry me, and yet assure myself and others
that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his
lot by all possible means — except by getting off
his back. - Leo Tolstoy, novelist and Philosopher
(1828-1910)

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Re: Big, dumb, lumbering dinosaur.
Date: December 31, 2007 10:23AM
To go from protecting against theft to assaulting people's right to make
legitimate copies of media they legally own is asinine and is going to end up
biting the industry where it really hurts: sales. This is a losing proposition for
them because of previous rulings regarding back-up copies and the right to
make compilations from works that you own.


We'll sue customers for using our product. Brillian.

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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: billb
Date: December 31, 2007 10:26AM
That whole article is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
They never put forth any sort od evidence to support their premise at all.
There's nothing there.
It's an empty glass.
A mug with the words "RIAA SUCKS".

This could have been written by a bored elementary school student.
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: D-Rod
Date: December 31, 2007 10:33AM
Already being discussed here

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Formerly known as Dennis R



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2007 10:34AM by Dennis R.
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: bwicklander
Date: December 31, 2007 11:12AM
Have you noticed that CD selection at retailers have shrunk considerably? RIAA is just plain dumb. Following the current business practices I am waiting for them to die a horrible death like compusa.
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: December 31, 2007 11:42AM
More reason to not buy new CDs. I've bought probably 200-300 used ones this year. You
can get them at yard sales for $ 0.25-1.00. I've been buying CDs since 1984 when you
were lucky to find 25-50 CDs for sale in a major music store and most of those were
Classical. I've probably own 600CDs and 500 LPs.



Grateful11
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: incognegro
Date: December 31, 2007 02:28PM
I want this shirt:

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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 31, 2007 03:32PM
Great thinking.

I've got lots of multi-disc sets necause the bulk of my collection is classical. Suppose I take this crap seriously, and only carry original discs around with me and play them on a portable CD player. Suppose one disc out of a 5-disc set is lost or damaged. Do they seriously think I would run out and buy the whole set again to get that one disc?

I make backups to avoid exposing my collection to that kind of risk.
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: December 31, 2007 04:34PM
The RIAA can suck my c*ck. They don't get to decide what constitutes fair use -- that privilege falls to the courts, and they've already made the call.



It is what it is.
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: December 31, 2007 04:56PM
Before you start hyperventilating, try reading this:
"the RIAA is claiming that Howell not only ripped his CDs but also put them in his shared folder in Kazaa, thus making them available for worldwide distribution." [www.cio-today.com]

Methinks sharing the ripped music via Kazaa is what got Mr. Howell in the RIAA's sights...
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: laarree
Date: December 31, 2007 07:10PM
Quote
SDGuy
Before you start hyperventilating, try reading this:
"the RIAA is claiming that Howell not only ripped his CDs but also put them in his shared folder in Kazaa, thus making them available for worldwide distribution." [www.cio-today.com]

Methinks sharing the ripped music via Kazaa is what got Mr. Howell in the RIAA's sights...

Thanks for the clarification. This now makes more sense. I had seen this news item
elsewhere and thought it was puzzling -- how on earth could the RIIA know what he
was doing with his CDs at home if the digital files weren't publicly accessible.

I will continue to rip CDs to my heart's content without paranoia -- have done 8000+
songs this way.




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*We are just a quarantined people under an evil sun.*
--- Richard S. Shaver
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Re: Now RIAA says copying your own CDs is illegal
Posted by: OWC Larry
Date: December 31, 2007 08:55PM
There are laws that provide for the fair use of media one buys and owns. Unless this guy was buying CDs, copying, then selling the CDs - one can only hope no ruling would fall in favor of the RIAA. Technically - you sell the CD though, all copies you made for personal use/backup must then be destroyed.

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DaviDC.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/31/riaa_cds_copies_computer/
Where will it end? Is the RIAA completely out of touch with reality?



OWC Larry
Other World Computing
[www.macsales.com]
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