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Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Kiva
Date: January 30, 2008 04:24PM
I have many-a-parent that will defend every action of their child - as if they can do no wrong. We have a phrase around here: "creatin' a criminal." then I came upon this interview done with Lee Harvey Oswald's mother. Though certainly an extreme case and there is a lot of mental illness there, it was just chilling:

[www.thisamericanlife.org]

(click "full episode" and then it's 30:30 in.....13min long)

kiva



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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: guitarist
Date: January 30, 2008 04:37PM
Oswald....

wasn't he that guy who shot Reagan?

Or was it John Lennon...?

Lee Harvey...

oh right, he's that guy who played the U.S. Marshall, with Harrison Ford in "The Fugitive"
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: January 30, 2008 05:17PM
oh right, he's that guy who played the U.S. Marshall, with Harrison Ford in "The Fugitive"

You're thinking of Harvey Lee Jones.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 30, 2008 05:22PM
No, it was Tommy Lee Jones who played the Marshall.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 30, 2008 05:27PM
I thought he was an ageant for the Men in Black?



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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: AlphaDog
Date: January 30, 2008 05:35PM
I hope those of you who are discussing Oswald as if you don't remember who he is are just kidding. Or maybe you're kids, which would explain it, too.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 30, 2008 05:39PM
No. I can't believe that the others don't know who he was. But then again, I have seen a few partial episodes of "Whose Smarter than a 5th Grader" or whatever it is called, and I am appalled.

And yes, Tommy Lee Jones was "K" I believe, from Men In Black as well.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: guitarist
Date: January 30, 2008 05:45PM
Yes, it's a joke. I was alive when Kennedy was shot, it happened in my town, Dallas. I was in pre-school at the time.

Everyone knows the actor who played the Marshall in 'The Fugitive" is Rikki Lee Jones.

[www.rickieleejones.com]
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Todd's keyboard
Date: January 30, 2008 05:53PM
You mean there was a federal mongoose in that movie?
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: incognegro
Date: January 30, 2008 06:01PM
I think just about every mother of a convicted murderer would say "he's a good boy, he wouldn't hurt anyone."

Am I wrong? Moms defend their kids, especially sons.



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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Mike Sellers
Date: January 30, 2008 06:04PM
She was a very disturbed woman. Her older son, Robert, turned out OK, so she can't be totally blamed for her youngest son's emotional problems, but she sure didn't help.

I find it strange that she kept referring to him as Lee Harvey Oswald. He was always Lee Oswald to everyone until November 22, 1963.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: January 30, 2008 06:09PM
I have seen a few partial episodes of "Whose Smarter than a 5th Grader" or whatever it is called

That would be "Who's", not "Whose". I'm appalled.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: billb
Date: January 30, 2008 06:17PM
are you smarter than a fifth grader.

I don't get why that show is still on, I've never been able to watch more than five minutes of it.
I bet a good percentage of seventh graders wouldn't fare too well either.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: January 30, 2008 06:22PM
It's a dopey premise. Nothing to do with being smart. A more accurate title would be "Can you remember things you learned 20+ years ago in 5th grade better than a kid who is in 5th grade learning those things right now?"
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Numo
Date: January 30, 2008 08:43PM
Those of us who were at least kids when John Kennedy was assassinated will always remember Lee Harvey Oswald. Dark days, indeed.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: prof
Date: January 30, 2008 08:44PM
I thought this was about Oswald's mom from the Drew Carey show... SHE's HOT!!!
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: January 30, 2008 09:01PM
OMG, Oswald's Mom from Drew Carey... she was hot when I was a teenager. Adrienne Barbeau
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: incognegro
Date: January 30, 2008 11:02PM
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cbelt3
OMG, Oswald's Mom from Drew Carey... she was hot when I was a teenager. Adrienne Barbeau

that would be the woman we referred to as Adrienne BarBoobs.



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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: morlock
Date: January 31, 2008 01:30AM
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Mike Sellers

I find it strange that she kept referring to him as Lee Harvey Oswald. He was always Lee Oswald to everyone until November 22, 1963.

Yeah, my mother said that when she went out with him (once) in high school, he went by Lee Oswald.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 31, 2008 03:05AM
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incognegro
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cbelt3
OMG, Oswald's Mom from Drew Carey... she was hot when I was a teenager. Adrienne Barbeau

that would be the woman we referred to as Adrienne BarBoobs.

I prefer Adrienne BareBoobs.



It is what it is.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: SLM
Date: January 31, 2008 11:58AM
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Kiva
I have many-a-parent that will defend every action of their child - as if they can do no wrong. We have a phrase around here: "creatin' a criminal."

It's called unconditional love, for most folks it comes with the territory.



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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Kiva
Date: February 01, 2008 01:29AM
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SLM
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Kiva
I have many-a-parent that will defend every action of their child - as if they can do no wrong. We have a phrase around here: "creatin' a criminal."

It's called unconditional love, for most folks it comes with the territory.

you apparently didn't listen to the video. And treating a child like a saint when they do bad things is *not* loving...it's actually very unkind as it does not set them up well for later life. A parent's job is to prepare the child for adulthood....teaching them not to have any healthy shame and guilt and excusing everything do is as damaging as beating the crap out them...worse, actually, IMO.

kiva



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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: kj
Date: February 01, 2008 03:00PM
>>teaching them not to have any healthy shame and guilt and excusing everything do is as damaging as beating the crap out them...worse, actually, IMO.

That's absolutely true. You can correct it early, and there's very little pain involved (if any), or you can let it continue into adulthood, where it's going to cause a lot of pain when people react to the poor behavior. It's like setting them up to get beat for the rest of their life. Definitely not something you do for someone you love. kj.
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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: Kiva
Date: February 01, 2008 04:38PM
kj...we're on the same page! everybody now,....kumbaya, my lord....kumbaya....

winking smiley

kiva



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Re: Oswald's mom...chilling...
Posted by: kj
Date: February 01, 2008 05:40PM
I had to chime in b/c we just had this conversation with the in-laws. They don't believe there's anything much you can do to influence kids, so you should just make them comfortable. kj.
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