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Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: February 16, 2006 12:07PM
It wouldn't let me post until I accepted the terms of service. TWICE.
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 16, 2006 12:08PM
. . .it wouldn't work at all. ..I had to keep hitting submit 6 times but it was still there. ..

finally it worked. ..

does that mean that I have sold my soul?





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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: incognegro
Date: February 16, 2006 12:09PM
time to clean house.



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 16, 2006 12:11PM
. ..




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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2006 02:09PM by NewtonMP2100.
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: February 16, 2006 12:12PM
Did anyone else catch the part about not making "graven images of OWCLarry or his high exalted prophet OWCJamie?"
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 16, 2006 12:14PM
. . .so the locket of his hair that I have is a no no?



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: PeterB
Date: February 16, 2006 12:18PM
Newt, there was something else that happened last night too...

One of the mods, please PM me.

I would also point out, that making users agree to certain legal terms, is meaningless if the terms themselves are unlawful. For example, you can make a tenant sign a lease, but if the lease includes unlawful items, their signing it does not abrogate the law. If there are items in the OWC TOS which violate the law (either nationally or in a particular state), by agreeing to the TOS, you have not forfeited your rights under the law. (That is, nobody can ever make you sign your rights away, no matter if you sign a legal contract, and what the contract says.)




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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 16, 2006 12:19PM
PeterB Wrote:
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> Newt, there was something else that happened last
> night too...
>

hmmmm. . . .



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: incognegro
Date: February 16, 2006 12:20PM
i'm not sure i saw that "other" thing.

Newt's long post titles didn't bother me, i found 'em funny.
plus now i know Newt's an innie, not an outie.



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: February 16, 2006 12:21PM
Hmm... maybe I shoulda read it before I checked "I read it" and clicked Submit....


It was too long.. .and used too many big words...

grinning smiley







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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 16, 2006 12:24PM
incognegro Wrote:
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> i'm not sure i saw that "other" thing.



Me too. ..I missed it (this is like watching an episode of Lost. . .I always miss the clue.)

>
> Newt's long post titles didn't bother me, i found
> 'em funny.
> plus now i know Newt's an innie, not an outie.


really?

was that you @ the bar last night. ..when I had too many drinks and started dancing on the bar top?

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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: Guitarman
Date: February 16, 2006 12:37PM
I have submitted. May I have another, sir!!!!!



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: samintx
Date: February 16, 2006 12:47PM
I refuse to allow my daughter to be sold to Larry...but I think I just agreed to it just to get on this website!
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: h'
Date: February 16, 2006 01:28PM
[edited out of fear]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2006 09:48PM by h'.
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: timg
Date: February 16, 2006 01:31PM
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: February 16, 2006 01:36PM
Uh OH....

There's some folks already in trouble!

Any attempt to manipulate forum rankings by artificially inflating counts of visitors, message views, postings or other items used in determining the forum's standing will be considered a violation of this agreement, and subject to any and all punitive actions specified herein for such violations, including closure of forum and termination of account.


Winding up thread view numbers is a no no!

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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: February 16, 2006 01:37PM
Are we going to have to click it each and every time we want to post?
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: mrp-admin
Date: February 16, 2006 01:52PM
No Zoidberg. You will only have to do that one time. After that it will not reappear.
Thanks
Jim
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: February 16, 2006 02:15PM
I've done it more than once, already, btw.



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: February 16, 2006 02:17PM
I've done it more than once myself. At least three or four times. Apparently not anymore, though.
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: mrp-admin
Date: February 16, 2006 02:22PM
If you have already done it once and it asks you to agree again, please try hitting refresh.
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: ADent
Date: February 16, 2006 02:24PM
The terms pretty much prohibit a lot of the traffic here.

No inappropriate posts - that's 30% of the traffic.

Harass others - that's 20% of the posts.

Can't impersonate - does that eliminate all posts by stevejobs?

No undermining MRF or Price.com. But it looks like we can undermine OWC.

No promoting violation of agreement.
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: February 16, 2006 02:27PM
hey, now ARTHUR!



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: OWC Larry
Date: February 16, 2006 02:29PM
The now official guidelines have been the utilized guidelines pretty much since the beginning.

There is the spirit and the letter... and this just is now official to cover the bases. It's a bummer they are needed, but I'd say the same about a lot of Fed, State, Local laws that are on the books too.

Anyway - this policy doesn't really change anything - just lets people know what policy is so it's not a question when some wonder why a post of theirs with something completely offensive/x rated, whatever has been removed.

it's a one time thing and not made to make any one's life difficult or take away from the enjoyment of the community.



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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: h'
Date: February 16, 2006 04:19PM
So, [bugs bunny muching carrot sound],
is there not some law somewhere that invalidates any disclaimer that can't be absorbed in one sitting?



I suffer from the same sensitivity that you do. A few nuggets of wisdom were shared with me and I'm "trying" to incorporate them into my life. First, remember that nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them. You can always reject what is being forced on you emotionally.
Second, nothing changes unless you change it. If you don't want the behavior to be repeated then you need to take action. Otherwise the kid has learned that his behavior is the way to get things done, because everyone lets him get away with it.
In the meantime I sympathize because I've been there.
-beerman
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Re: Wow, what's up with that Terms of Service thing?
Posted by: WHiiP
Date: February 16, 2006 07:57PM
So, before any *warning* from OWC or Price.com ( somebody clue me in here . . . how the hell is Price.com connected to this??????) we HAVE to agree to these terms of service? Before any questions about what this means????

EXACTLY HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT DEALMAC PULLED, IN AND OF ITSELF???

Yes, I know there are some differences, but still . . . this is a shot out of right field (sorry 'mintie) . . . at least to me, it is.

Obviously I have clicked on it . . . couldn't make this post otherwise, but SHEESH, STILL THINK THIS KINDA SUCKS . . .

But that is just my opinion . . . and like other things, everybody has one!!

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