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Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: space-time
Date: July 03, 2008 10:55AM
I downloaded a very interesting paper, and I am annoyed at how it was published.

It is a 40+ technical paper, looks like they edited the whole thing in some word processing software, with graphs, drawings, tables, etc. I bet it looked nice. Then they printed the whole paper and then they scanned it into a PDF. The graphs are tilted, text is fuzzy, there are ghost images on the background (someone's fingerprints on the scanned maybe?). In one word: IT SUCKS! (OK, 2 words)

We are in 2008 last time I checked. if this was 1998 I would understand, but in 2008???

why???
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: July 03, 2008 10:59AM
maybe because they did it on a Windows machine?
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: clay
Date: July 03, 2008 11:01AM
maybe they don't know how to make a PDF from a word processing program. they could just have it in their mind that the only way to make a pdf is with that scanner that they've got and the included software.

it is 2008, but there are still tons of people that don't "get" technology/computers as well as some of us.

I feel your pain, man...
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: Monster
Date: July 03, 2008 11:18AM
don't you just want to bitch slap people like that?





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The sociologist, and historian, Adam Ferguson described the phenomenon of spontaneous order in society as the "result of human action, but not the execution of any human design".
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: July 03, 2008 11:32AM
Maybe because the person who distributed it as a PDF wasn't the one who created the original, so all they had was a hard copy.

Maybe because then the file couldn't be easily distributed without it being apparent it wasn't the original.

Maybe because they used one of those fancy fax machines that will convert to PDF and email if the recipient has an email address in the database instead of a fax number.




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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: July 03, 2008 11:35AM
Possibility #C: They wanted to prevent anyone (the average user) from (easily) editing the content, and either don't know about or don't trust the password feature.

Obviously not a bulletproof strategy if you're dealing with anyone with any computer skills at all, but one that might be used in some circumstances.
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: space-time
Date: July 03, 2008 11:57AM
yeah, I can think of maybe other 10 reasons, but that doesn't mean it sucks less or makes reading this any easier
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: davester
Date: July 03, 2008 12:53PM
Reason number 11: The document is made up of many different Word, Excel, Illustrator, Photoshop bits and nobody ever made a pdf. In that case it is much easier to just jam your consolidated paper copy in the machine. This is very common in my industry (environmental cleanup)...makes it a royal PITA to copy large analytical data sets



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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: laarree
Date: July 03, 2008 12:57PM
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Monster
don't you just want to bitch slap people like that?

Yes.




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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: July 03, 2008 03:07PM
Maybe they don't want people to OCR it and steal their IP.
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: July 03, 2008 04:18PM
Why in 2008? I still get papers and emails using spaces to center and indent!!!
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: July 03, 2008 07:47PM
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Why in 2008? I still get papers and emails using spaces to center and indent!!!

Or putting double spaces after a period.




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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: davester
Date: July 03, 2008 08:52PM
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M A V I C
Or putting double spaces after a period.

That's purely personal preference. True that it originated in the days of typesetting machines, but there's mucho discussion on the web and the verdict is...some people feel the extra space helps improve readability and others feel that the computer should be deciding the distance and that everyone should force themselves to change decades-ingrained habits and bend to the will of the computer. There are mouth-frothers on both sides of the equation. My opinion...not a subject to waste fretting time over, It's of absolutely no real importance to anyone.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: July 04, 2008 01:14PM
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davester
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M A V I C
Or putting double spaces after a period.

That's purely personal preference. True that it originated in the days of typesetting machines, but there's mucho discussion on the web and the verdict is...some people feel the extra space helps improve readability and others feel that the computer should be deciding the distance and that everyone should force themselves to change decades-ingrained habits and bend to the will of the computer. There are mouth-frothers on both sides of the equation. My opinion...not a subject to waste fretting time over, It's of absolutely no real importance to anyone.

The amount of space needed after a period is built into the font (if it's a good font.) It's not a matter of personal preference... it's already built in. It tends to cause problems in pro layout software and with professional fonts.

People who think it needs more space have much less experience with fonts than the pros that design them.




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Re: Why PRINT then SCAN to PDF?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: July 04, 2008 07:08PM
The double space does not come from typesetting machines, but from typewriters and fixed space type font design. Since they do not have two different spaces, which in a variable pitch typeset font would be en-space and em-space, the practice of placing two spaces at the end of a sentence came about to improve readability. Software can handle the automatic insertion of the extra space, i.e. the correct space character, as long as it detects an end of sentence,



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