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no Whites!
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 16, 2008 10:41PM
100m men final, no whites.

I could not believe my eyes, such a fantastic race. Another WR
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Posted by: cbelt3
Date: August 16, 2008 10:52PM
what- the uniform colors were all grey and blues ?
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Posted by: Carthaigh
Date: August 16, 2008 10:54PM
Two of the runner's names were Bolt, and Burns. Good names for sprinters.



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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: Craig
Date: August 16, 2008 11:04PM
Look at the pool- no blacks. Even the swimmers from Zimbabwe and South Africa are white

I was talking to a friend and we figured out that the reason is that a pair of running shoes is cheaper than than a country club membership.

I haven't seen it, but the steeplechase race usually consists mostly of white guys. And the long distance races tend to be dominated be central Africans.

I would love to see a statistical analysis of this done across the Olympics, looking at race/nationality of entrants and of medalists for all sports. It would be fascinating to see the trends.


Craig
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: jimbrady
Date: August 16, 2008 11:29PM
And to win our two big medals in gymnastics, we Americans had to rely on a couple of (YIKES!) Eastern Europeans in the clutch.



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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 16, 2008 11:30PM
I was of the impression that some athletes went "country shopping" to insure they would appear in the Olympics ala the Jamaican Bob Sled Team.
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: August 16, 2008 11:36PM
Um, did you know that black folks can run their asses off??

Jimmy the Greek was correct in his anatomical analysis of the black athlete..the one that cost him career.

My son plays high level baseball on a white and puerto rican team.

A number of years ago, when they were 13-14, we played a mostly black inner city team for the first time. The kids on his team were shaking their heads in amazement at the speed on the basepaths...These guys were swiping bases like they were gifts. We usually won these games because the baseball they were playing wasn't up to snuff hitting and pitching wise but...when they got on base these kids ran at will.
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: vision63
Date: August 17, 2008 12:48AM
I ran fast, but I really ran fast when the Crips were chasing me.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2008 12:50AM by vision63.
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 17, 2008 04:22AM
This thread seems more than a tad bit racist.



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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 17, 2008 06:05AM
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Speedy
This thread seems more than a tad bit racist.

I do not agree. I am white. I was totally amazed by the 100m final. I happen to notice there was no white in it. Is the "black" race better that the "white" race when it comes to running? Maybe. I don't know. But certainly in this Olympiad, they managed to send 8 of their top athletes to run for the 100m final, when us, the whites, sent none. On the other hand the opposite happened at the pool. So what.

Again, I was totally amazed by the race and I admire those 8 athletes, yes, even the one that finished on the 8th place. I wish I could run 1/2 as fast.

The fact that I notices they were all blacks does not make me racist.
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: August 17, 2008 07:06AM
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space-time
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Speedy
This thread seems more than a tad bit racist.

I do not agree. I am white. I was totally amazed by the 100m final. I happen to notice there was no white in it. Is the "black" race better that the "white" race when it comes to running? Maybe. I don't know. But certainly in this Olympiad, they managed to send 8 of their top athletes to run for the 100m final, when us, the whites, sent none. On the other hand the opposite happened at the pool. So what.

Again, I was totally amazed by the race and I admire those 8 athletes, yes, even the one that finished on the 8th place. I wish I could run 1/2 as fast.

The fact that I notices they were all blacks does not make me racist.
The fact that it mattered enough to be the title of your thread? That it's "their" athletes and "us, the whites"? Not such good signals.

I *totally* believe you don't hold any animosity. But racism extends beyond the morons with sheets over their heads or dragging people to death behind their pick up. Cultural racism can be the toughest thing for everybody to deal with because sometimes it takes the form of stuff we "just know" that seems harmless enough, but can end up forming barriers, conscious and unconscious, even between good people.
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: The UnDoug
Date: August 17, 2008 07:42AM
White people can't dance.



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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: shadow
Date: August 17, 2008 07:50AM
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space-time
The fact that I notices they were all blacks does not make me racist.

Yes it does. Didn't you get the memo?

Caucasians are only allowed to "celebrate" the difference between cultures, not make factually accurate statements which use race as a basis.
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Re: Whites
Posted by: miK.
Date: August 17, 2008 07:56AM
I remember an old interview David Letterman did with Michael Jordan.
The Air Jordan sneaker had just come out. Apparently, NIKE had some
issues with the red/black color scheme of the shoe design.

Letterman: "So what was NIKE's problem with the color?"
Jordan: "They said it doesn't have enough white in it".
Letterman: "Well, neither does the NBA."

A classic line. I wonder if it was a setup...
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: iaJim
Date: August 17, 2008 08:19AM
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Craig
Look at the pool- no blacks. Even the swimmers from Zimbabwe and South Africa are white

Craig

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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: samintx
Date: August 17, 2008 10:09AM
Well I didn't see anyone named Jose either.
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 17, 2008 05:53PM
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Kraniac
Um, did you know that black folks can run their asses off??

Jimmy the Greek was correct in his anatomical analysis of the black athlete..the one that cost him career.

This makes no sense at all. Jimmy the Greek was blathering about slave owners in the United States breeding black men to be bigger and stronger. What the hell does that have to do with athletes from non-US countries?



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Posted by: Kraniac
Date: August 17, 2008 08:40PM
Stevie,

Do a little reading. Slave breeding is fact, not fiction.

Slaves were regularly sold as breeding stock. When the shipment of human beings was halted it was rampant and many slave owners/dealers had requirements for the numbers of children that their so called, "prize" women and men produced. They also sold women and men as good breeding stock based on strength, body type etc.
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Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 17, 2008 10:00PM
BUT these Olympic athletes ARE NOT DESCENDED FROM SLAVES.

Or did you not know that the Olympics are INTERNATIONAL?



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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: August 17, 2008 10:21PM
Stevie...offhanded comment about Jimmy, my apologies. What he said was basically true in segments and quite a few agreed...

He was a clutz, a drunk, a buffoon.

Spend some time on the playgrounds and you'll know what you already know.

Black athletes have incredible leg strength and leg build and their anatomy is much different. they are built for speed and many of the average joes can seriously sky towards a rim. Little guys dunking all over the place,,,leg power. Jimmy was correct in what he said although put it together in wrongest of ways and made some really stupid generalizations and ignorant assumption along the way...layers of stuff in that petite ramble.

We laymen have know way of knowing who was descended from who but you are correct...just some seriously fast black men running that race. If the cultural forces were different our black brothers and sisters would probably cruise hard in a swimming pool..other sports too.

I do concede, you are correct and my mention of Jimmy the Greek was majorly a yuk for me because I thought of him in the moment. Please forgive me.
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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: August 17, 2008 11:10PM
Some folk built like this, some folk built like that
But the way I'm built, you shouldn't call me fat
Because I'm built for comfort, I ain't built for speed
But I got everything all the good girls need

-Willie Dixon



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Re: no Whites!
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 18, 2008 10:40PM
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Kraniac
If the cultural forces were different our black brothers and sisters would probably cruise hard in a swimming pool..other sports too.

Well, we will have to get Al Campanis to weigh in on that.
;)

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I do concede, you are correct and my mention of Jimmy the Greek was majorly a yuk for me because I thought of him in the moment. Please forgive me.

Nothing to forgive, it's water under the bridge.



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