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Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: samintx
Date: August 19, 2008 07:28AM
[www.businessweek.com]

I don't like anyone collecting data on me unless I approve. I suppose, tho, if you are on a computer you are a data bank for someone.
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: walscobry
Date: August 19, 2008 07:52AM
The Kill Switch was the final straw for me and Apple.

I have not made an Apple purchase since 2003 because I don't do DRM, and have had growing concerns over Apple doing something just like this.

So after 20+ years and a couple dozen computers/laptops later, I can state that I will not purchase another Apple product. They simply cannot be trusted as a tool or service provider.
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 19, 2008 08:04AM
Okay, and which companies are 100% trusty?



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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: August 19, 2008 08:31AM
I don't see what the big deal is. If you're using a device that has an always-on internet connection, GPS, your email, contacts, websites, and applications, they already have enough information about me identify me with near certainty. Taken together, that information is as good as a fingerprint. It is, however, no worse than Google or Microsoft. As I understood it, the Kill Switch was intended to prevent others from abusing that information. Imagine if a 3rd party app was unknowingly collecting that information about you and redistributing it. They could be reselling it, or worse, using it to pinpoint your current physical location. The Kill Switch was meant to kill those apps.



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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: August 19, 2008 08:51AM
walscobry, I guess that you don't use any M$ products, as they have far outdone Apple with regards to data collection and DRM.
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: August 19, 2008 09:26AM
One of the things that were pointed out, and I think is legit, is that with MobileMe
being a huge part of using the iPhone, that applications which can interfere (even if
initially screened by Apple) with the functionality of the network, Apple has to protect that.

The carrier may handle the signal, but all the interaction of what is happening between the
phone, the computer and "Mac.com" is Apple's doing, and it must be able to render apps
that are determined to be unsafe to the entirety of the network that THEY are providing,
dead, so that incidents like we are now seeing, with MobileMe (not that it is related, but
consider it a possibility down the road to be something that could happen because of
200,000 people using a bad application) are UNABLE to occur.

Think of something that could be activated, and not found out until later, as an app hidden
to trigger a DoS or endless pinging on MobileMe or some other nightmare for users and Apple.

They have to have some element of control. There's a lot going on there. I don't consider
this to be the equiv of their scanning your computer for items and shutting them down.
There is a factor of interoperability between the cellular carrier and the internet that must
be maintained to assure use for all. And of 1500 apps and more, that get installed via
iTMS, it seems reasonable that just as they can push an update to your phone because
they MADE it with a bug, that they can kill an app on your phone because it is discovered
to have a bug or other issue that is not in the hive's best interest.

Bzzzzzzz.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/19/2008 09:28AM by Jimmypoo.
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: MGS_forgot_password
Date: August 19, 2008 09:27AM
Do you realize most phones have this "kill switch" functionality?

[en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: August 19, 2008 09:32AM
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MGS_forgot_password
Do you realize most phones have this "kill switch" functionality?

[en.wikipedia.org]


And so here we have again...... selective journalism for the sake of a story, by some puke
who gets paid by the inch (as differs from Ron Jeremy, who gets paid by the MILE), and
OMA has been in effect for coming up on 1.5 years.

This is why THIS is my mantra: [images.tribe.net]
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: August 19, 2008 09:40AM
The only telecommunication device that is truly safe:
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: Jack D.
Date: August 19, 2008 10:15AM
If you wear these Apple won't be able to identify you.





- Jack D.




New tasteless sig coming soon!
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: samintx
Date: August 19, 2008 10:34AM
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cbelt3
The only telecommunication device that is truly safe:

I think you have the answer but I'm thinking seriously about the Groucho glasses and nose or maybe a combination. What do you think? Need a long string.
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: August 19, 2008 10:37AM
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samintx
I'm thinking seriously about the Groucho glasses and nose. What do you think?

Won't that just cover your current mustache and glasses?
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Re: Apple data collection overblown but...
Posted by: samintx
Date: August 19, 2008 12:16PM
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Jimmypoo
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samintx
I'm thinking seriously about the Groucho glasses and nose. What do you think?

Won't that just cover your current mustache and glasses?

Actually I have trimmed my mustache and gotten contacts.
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