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what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: clay
Date: October 30, 2008 03:30PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: papercup
Date: October 30, 2008 03:33PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: October 30, 2008 03:33PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: clay
Date: October 30, 2008 03:35PM
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papercup
At least a 650VA would be my guess. Bigger if you can.
Go to the APC site, they have a configurator widget, I think.
Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: October 30, 2008 03:42PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: Doc
Date: October 30, 2008 03:47PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: October 30, 2008 04:00PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: October 30, 2008 04:20PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: AllGold
Date: October 30, 2008 04:30PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: October 30, 2008 04:32PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: papercup
Date: October 30, 2008 04:45PM
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AllGold
Your Mac Pro probably pulls about 400 watts when working hard and at least 200 when idle.
650VA won't cover it. You would need 800VA at minimum. 1000, 1200 or 1500 would be better.
Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: October 30, 2008 04:57PM
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A worthwhile alternative to APC to consider:, October 26, 2008
By Mac Tech "Alan" (North Carolina) - See all my reviews
I work as a network technician and have used APC equipment for many years. Their high-end units have always done well for us. For many years, I also used their Smart-UPS brand for my home network needs. As they've become old and had problems, it became more economical to replace them, instead of fixing them, especially, since for my desktops, the industry was moving to USB for signaling, and away from serial ports. My rack still has older 1400 VA SU units using SNMP management cards, but I needed a new desktop solution.
For the past three years, I stuck to APC's consumer products and have been very disappointed. They have more problems than the older units I've grown to love, and because they change models so often, it's harder to find a battery replacement. Plus, they just have a sort of cheapness about them.
With my latest computer purchase, a dual quad Mac Pro, my older 800VA APC just couldn't handle it. So, I decided to try this Cyberpower 1500 and have been very pleased with it, using it for about 2 months so far. The signaling and reported time is more reliable than the APC I was using. Although it should be said, any consumer UPS will not guarantee exact runtimes, load measurements, etc. - For what you are paying for this amount of capacity, some sacrifice must be realized. If you do your calculations correctly, and use it as needed (surges, brown-outs and limited black-outs), these units will fulfill your needs. If you need super accurate measurements and reliable AC power generation, then you should consider a high end unit, such as what APC offers for data centers.
The load reading for this unit, when measured with a Kill-A-Watt is pretty accurate. I like the soft blue lighting with auto-off. I connect my two, 24" LCDs to the APC 800VA unit, and the Cyberpower handles the Mac Pro with three, external FireWire drives with no problems. Testing it, by turning off the circuit breaker (shouldn't pull the cord from the wall), reports about 20 minutes of runtime, which seems about right. I've left it on battery power for about 10 minutes, and the readings remained fairly constant. I live out in the country at the end of our power grid, so I get a lot of "dirty" power. Brown-outs are common, and my larger UPS units have the ability to generate statistical logs each day of the power fluctuation. I feel pretty safe with this unit, and wouldn't hesitate to purchase another one.
Lastly, the software both Cyberpower and APC provides for the Mac OS, is really bad! I prefer to just use the Mac's SysPrefs to configure the UPS settings and leave it at that. Both companies desperately need a re-write of their OS X software.
Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: October 30, 2008 05:01PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: Doc
Date: October 30, 2008 05:06PM
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Doc
Your MacPro probably has a 250w power supply.
MacTracker says its 980w.
Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: clay
Date: October 30, 2008 05:28PM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: October 30, 2008 06:27PM
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Harbourmaster
Sounds like a good unit from this buyers review:Quote
A worthwhile alternative to APC to consider:, October 26, 2008
By Mac Tech "Alan" (North Carolina) - See all my reviews
I work as a network technician and have used APC equipment for many years. Their high-end units have always done well for us. For many years, I also used their Smart-UPS brand for my home network needs. As they've become old and had problems, it became more economical to replace them, instead of fixing them, especially, since for my desktops, the industry was moving to USB for signaling, and away from serial ports. My rack still has older 1400 VA SU units using SNMP management cards, but I needed a new desktop solution.
For the past three years, I stuck to APC's consumer products and have been very disappointed. They have more problems than the older units I've grown to love, and because they change models so often, it's harder to find a battery replacement. Plus, they just have a sort of cheapness about them.
With my latest computer purchase, a dual quad Mac Pro, my older 800VA APC just couldn't handle it. So, I decided to try this Cyberpower 1500 and have been very pleased with it, using it for about 2 months so far. The signaling and reported time is more reliable than the APC I was using. Although it should be said, any consumer UPS will not guarantee exact runtimes, load measurements, etc. - For what you are paying for this amount of capacity, some sacrifice must be realized. If you do your calculations correctly, and use it as needed (surges, brown-outs and limited black-outs), these units will fulfill your needs. If you need super accurate measurements and reliable AC power generation, then you should consider a high end unit, such as what APC offers for data centers.
The load reading for this unit, when measured with a Kill-A-Watt is pretty accurate. I like the soft blue lighting with auto-off. I connect my two, 24" LCDs to the APC 800VA unit, and the Cyberpower handles the Mac Pro with three, external FireWire drives with no problems. Testing it, by turning off the circuit breaker (shouldn't pull the cord from the wall), reports about 20 minutes of runtime, which seems about right. I've left it on battery power for about 10 minutes, and the readings remained fairly constant. I live out in the country at the end of our power grid, so I get a lot of "dirty" power. Brown-outs are common, and my larger UPS units have the ability to generate statistical logs each day of the power fluctuation. I feel pretty safe with this unit, and wouldn't hesitate to purchase another one.
Lastly, the software both Cyberpower and APC provides for the Mac OS, is really bad! I prefer to just use the Mac's SysPrefs to configure the UPS settings and leave it at that. Both companies desperately need a re-write of their OS X software.
Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: October 30, 2008 08:26PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Harbourmaster
Sounds like a good unit from this buyers review:Quote
A worthwhile alternative to APC to consider:, October 26, 2008
By Mac Tech "Alan" (North Carolina) - See all my reviews
I work as a network technician and have used APC equipment for many years. Their high-end units have always done well for us. For many years, I also used their Smart-UPS brand for my home network needs. As they've become old and had problems, it became more economical to replace them, instead of fixing them, especially, since for my desktops, the industry was moving to USB for signaling, and away from serial ports. My rack still has older 1400 VA SU units using SNMP management cards, but I needed a new desktop solution.
For the past three years, I stuck to APC's consumer products and have been very disappointed. They have more problems than the older units I've grown to love, and because they change models so often, it's harder to find a battery replacement. Plus, they just have a sort of cheapness about them.
With my latest computer purchase, a dual quad Mac Pro, my older 800VA APC just couldn't handle it. So, I decided to try this Cyberpower 1500 and have been very pleased with it, using it for about 2 months so far. The signaling and reported time is more reliable than the APC I was using. Although it should be said, any consumer UPS will not guarantee exact runtimes, load measurements, etc. - For what you are paying for this amount of capacity, some sacrifice must be realized. If you do your calculations correctly, and use it as needed (surges, brown-outs and limited black-outs), these units will fulfill your needs. If you need super accurate measurements and reliable AC power generation, then you should consider a high end unit, such as what APC offers for data centers.
The load reading for this unit, when measured with a Kill-A-Watt is pretty accurate. I like the soft blue lighting with auto-off. I connect my two, 24" LCDs to the APC 800VA unit, and the Cyberpower handles the Mac Pro with three, external FireWire drives with no problems. Testing it, by turning off the circuit breaker (shouldn't pull the cord from the wall), reports about 20 minutes of runtime, which seems about right. I've left it on battery power for about 10 minutes, and the readings remained fairly constant. I live out in the country at the end of our power grid, so I get a lot of "dirty" power. Brown-outs are common, and my larger UPS units have the ability to generate statistical logs each day of the power fluctuation. I feel pretty safe with this unit, and wouldn't hesitate to purchase another one.
Lastly, the software both Cyberpower and APC provides for the Mac OS, is really bad! I prefer to just use the Mac's SysPrefs to configure the UPS settings and leave it at that. Both companies desperately need a re-write of their OS X software.
Joke's on him -- if what I've heard about them is correct, CyberPower is an APC-owned company that sells older APC technology.
EDIT: Or maybe that's what makes it better!
Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: tortoise
Date: October 31, 2008 01:45AM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: October 31, 2008 07:18AM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: billb
Date: October 31, 2008 07:33AM
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Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: November 04, 2008 03:02AM
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JoeH
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N-OS X-tasy!
Joke's on him -- if what I've heard about them is correct, CyberPower is an APC-owned company that sells older APC technology.
EDIT: Or maybe that's what makes it better!
Incorrect, the APC owned company is Conext, [www.conextproducts.com], and is down to selling just two models, 750 VA and 950 VA units. CyberPower is independent of APC.
Re: what size UPS for my mac pro?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: November 04, 2008 03:14AM
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tortoise
I am running a MacPro along with RAID enclosure containing 8 1TB HD, and several other odds and ends into a 1000VA APC unit. May move up to 1500VA next battery replacement just for extra capacity. Would not consider any brand but APC, as I work in the field as independent tech and see all the cheap crap people try to save money on. Bottom line UPS is the main products from APS, only a sideline for other companies.