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Apple playing Patent hardball...justified?
Posted by: samintx
Date: February 07, 2009 07:55AM
[online.barrons.com]


Zerox did the first icon desktop and Apple(also Amiga) ran away with it...and now maybe the touch screen technology functions are products of a university think tank. I'm sure the majority here will say Apple is justified but is it really? Food for thought.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2009 08:03AM by samintx.
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Re: Apple playing Patent hardball...justified?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: February 07, 2009 08:34AM
Bad history you are using Suzanne to base your argument on. One it was Xerox; two, Apple paid for access to view that technology at Xerox in the form of stock options at a favorable rate; and three if you compared the Xerox approach to what Apple ended up with, it was only an influence. In any case, Xerox made quite a good profit off those options. As for whether Apple is justified, as hinted at in the article it appears Palm not only is using a similar implementation, some of its developers were former Apple R&D people.



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Re: Apple playing Patent hardball...justified?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: February 07, 2009 08:55AM
But your honor, the Palm implementation isn't a copy, it's an homage !

At the end of the day, intellectual property is the very lifeblood of a product. Ask Apple how they feel about all the Chinese knockoffs of the iPod and iPhone. Heck, ask the company I work for about the Chinese knockoffs of our products being sold by one of our now ex-distributors ?

The rule of the playground is that if you do not agressively defend your IP, it becomes fair game, and even the courts won't find for you once you get off your stick and sue.
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Re: Apple playing Patent hardball...justified?
Posted by: DavidS
Date: February 07, 2009 09:52AM
A friend and former coworker of mine's father was the main patent lawyer for Gillette. He aggressively defended their patents for the Sensor razor blades and all their products that came afterwards. I agree with cbelt3 on this one completely.
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Justified.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: February 07, 2009 10:03AM
For the reasons and history lesson already presented.






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Re: Apple playing Patent hardball...justified?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: February 07, 2009 11:07AM
ZEROX ROX!!

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...justified? ABSOLUTELY.
Posted by: Panopticon
Date: February 07, 2009 11:36AM
agree with JoeH, that 'history' is bogus.
Some real background on Apple & patents.

The rule of the playground is that if you do not agressively defend your IP, it becomes fair game, and even the courts won't find for you once you get off your stick and sue.

...and that is a fact. Well said cbelt3!






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Re: ...justified? ABSOLUTELY.
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 07, 2009 02:05PM
Quote
Panopticon
agree with JoeH, that 'history' is bogus.
Some real background on Apple & patents.

The rule of the playground is that if you do not agressively defend your IP, it becomes fair game, and even the courts won't find for you once you get off your stick and sue.

...and that is a fact. Well said cbelt3!

That's why Disney has hundreds and hundreds on their legal staff going up against counterfeiters.
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Re: Apple playing Patent hardball...justified?
Posted by: sekker
Date: February 07, 2009 08:41PM
I do not see how Apple will be able to maintain all the patents people seem to attribute to them.

Multitouch? Nope. This was invented by academics years ago.

Multitouch in a mobile device? Maybe.

Apple SHOULD defend its IP. But just as they did not invent the mouse, they did not invent multitouch. Do I think they make what is currently the best multitouch product on the market? Yes (and I have put my money where my mouth is, I own an iPhone). Do I think Apple's patents preclude Palm from making a multi-touch mobile device? Nope.

Seems to me all we're doing with these court cases is feeding the lawyers.
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