FWIW, I received an email from Intuit today announcing that its long-awaited update to Quicken for Mac is coming out in february, and can be pre-ordered, with a whopping $10 discount. Their announcement page is not very informative regarding new and tantalizing features.

I've been using Quicken 2007 for a while and have stayed with it for my simple purposes, not bothering with migrating to any of its competitors, and will probably lazily upgrade to this new version sooner or later.

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The 2010 version has fewer abilities to track investments compared with those of Quicken 2007.

I switched to Moneydance ages ago because I got tired of Intuit's b.s.

To be fair, I only use it as a checkbook, not for anything else.

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I'd probably wait a few years for the dust to settle with this. They've changed directions and slipped schedules so much, and this is supposed to be a total re-design, I'd let others deal with the live-testing.

I'm still on Quicken 2002, and Quicken 98 before that, they haven't been fixing bugs, and the minor features they've added aren't very attractive to me, so I've been sticking with what I have. They killed off my ability to update stock prices from their servers, but I've found workarounds to import the price data from other sources.

I've got 30 years of history recorded in my database and I'm not ready to jump to this new version as soon as it comes out.

I was using Quicken 98 until last year when I switched to Moneydance. As near as I can figure it, the only upgrades they've ever made to Quicken 98 were to create bugs and cut off ability to update stock prices. I tried upgrading once to a newer version but ran into a lot of problems and ZERO support from Intuit. I'm not sure I like Moneydance that much but I was completely pissed off at Intuit for their crappy near abandonment of the macintosh, compounded by their deliberate cutting off of their users from perfectly good features (i.e. stock updates). It'd take a minor miracle for me to buy their product again.

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I switched to Moneydance ages ago because I got tired of Intuit's b.s.

To be fair, I only use it as a checkbook, not for anything else.

I'm interested in migrating from Quicken to Moneydance. Do you use three-up checks for printing? If so, how do you order them? In the past I've ordered from Quicken.

I'm also still using Quicken 98. I know I'll have to face reality soon and migrate to something more modern. The two Ti 'Books I'm running Quicken on are getting horribly long in the tooth.

And yeah, I've come to despise Intuit myself. I would really like to see a viable alternative I could feel comfortable switching to.

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There's been a long ongoing discussion over at Macintouch.com about Quicken Essentials - general consensus is that it is a big step backwards from Q2007 and not worth the money to upgrade:

[www.macintouch.com]

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It is what it is.

For those of you still running Quicken 98, is my memory correct that it required OS-9/Classic? I recall that there were two things that got me to choose Quicken 2002 when I upgraded from 98, and they were:

1) Stock prices would continue to work (which turned out to only be true for about a year after they dropped support for 98).

2) It was a Carbon application so that I could run it natively on OS-X.

Other than that, it added a few new bugs, and didn't fix any old bugs.

> For those of you still running Quicken 98, is my memory correct that it required OS-9/Classic?

Correct. And I believe it's the only OS 9 software left that I'm still using regularly since I broke my addiction to Warcraft 2 a few years ago.

I tried switching to Quicken 2002 once, ( or possibly another newer version) and had some problems that convinced me to go back to 98. It's been several years, so I can't recall all the details.

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Thus far Quicken 2006 works well enough for me. My usage includes brokerage downloads, credit card downloads etc.

The new Quicken Essentials will be a downgrade as it won't handle investment tracking.

I'll keep using Q2006 until it breaks. This will likely happen in 10.7 if Apple removes Rosetta.

I've been following the Quicken discussion at Macintouch closely [www.macintouch.com]. Moneydance & iBank are often touted as replacements but I don't see any advantage in switching as of yet.

I have no desire to deal with import problems with my 15 year old data file.

Thanks for the link to Macintouch's discussion about Quicken and alternatives to using it. Will be browsing thru that later.

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Quicken (Intuit) is probably the worst Mac software company out there. And the fact that it is run by a former Apple big-wig is simply disgusting.

They haven't earned any respect in a very long time . . .

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do either Mdance or iBank do reports like Quicken?
I'd like to switch, but them reports are useful.

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do either Mdance or iBank do reports like Quicken?
I'd like to switch, but them reports are useful.

Yes for moneydance. Try their free trial.

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I keep waiting for for someone to come out with a app version. Something that will let me use it like a checkbook then syncs automatically to the main version on my macbook.

I use quicken 2004 but only as a glorified checkbook, first one to come out with a simple to use mobile app that syncs back wins.

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I switched to Moneydance ages ago because I got tired of Intuit's b.s.

To be fair, I only use it as a checkbook, not for anything else.

I'm interested in migrating from Quicken to Moneydance. Do you use three-up checks for printing? If so, how do you order them? In the past I've ordered from Quicken.

I don't do any check printing; meant to say I only use it for a ledger. I do all my check writing by hand.

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I may try that Moneydance trial - can I export to QIF with categories and tags and such? The reason I use Quicken (for PC) is that is the way my accountant and I exchange information.

As I expected, people here are underwhelmed by the thought of a new version Quicken being available.

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I may try that Moneydance trial - can I export to QIF with categories and tags and such? The reason I use Quicken (for PC) is that is the way my accountant and I exchange information.

I switched from Quicken (2002?) to MoneyDance a few years ago when the former stopped accepting stock price updates. Intuit had already cut off on-line downloads, but I hacked around that with a script that grabbed the prices from Yahoo and translated it into .qif.

But I digress.

Of the alternatives (LiquidLedger, and a few others), MoneyDance did the best import. Only 3 errors for data dating back to 1996 (all three were stock splits with the result going to separate accounts - a known bug). Beyond that, all .qif import worked/works just fine. I don't know if output was just as reliable.

I don't print checks, but do *require* stock price synchronization.

The UI is getting better, but not terribly polished. It's a Java program and it shows.

But, it's solid, reliable, maintained, and not Intuit.

The demo allows for import and up to 100 transactions. More than enough to determine wheter or not you like it.

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