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How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 09, 2012 10:02PM
Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Everything works. Trains run, planes fly and stores are open. It is almost like we don't need them. Moreover, they are doing just fine apparently with no work. I see no starvations, no riots, no one is on the streets, and I doubt any of them have lost their cellphones, cars or HDTVs. If I was Obama I would just call this the new normal and be done with it.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: July 09, 2012 10:12PM
you expect they're all from the same industry?



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: p8712
Date: July 09, 2012 10:21PM
Why is there enough food to eat when only a small percentage of the population are farmers?

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starvations, no riots, no one is on the streets,







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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: billb
Date: July 09, 2012 10:33PM
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Avenger
I see no starvations,.


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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 09, 2012 11:01PM
>>you expect they're all from the same industry?<<

Doesn't matter. They seem not to be needed. Yet. I will tell you where I am going with this.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 09, 2012 11:46PM
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Avenger
I will tell you where I am going with this.

No, I will tell you where you're going with this. You've posted another bunch of lies. Where you're going with this is trolling. Once again you will prove to have no luck in you're fishing expedition.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Chakravartin
Date: July 10, 2012 07:00AM
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Avenger
I see no starvations, no riots, no one is on the streets...

Have you looked?

[www.ers.usda.gov]
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Black
Date: July 10, 2012 07:06AM
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Avenger
I will tell you where I am going with this.

No need. Clearly you've decided Obama is doing a pretty good job after all.




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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 10, 2012 07:50AM
>>Have you looked?<<

Yes but no food riots. We seem to be settling down in a comfy position. Sideline 15 million people that seem to be going on with their normal lives. Proof: Obama is even or ahead in polls.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: July 10, 2012 07:51AM
I could post some intelligent commentary about increased automation, businesses 'rightsizing' and 'doing more with less', as well as workers being asked to increase their productivity.

But I'm not going to bother. Seriously, dude. Establish an intelligent dialogue here. Your original thesis could have been couched as follows:

"With the economy moving along and over 15 million Americans still out of work, what can be done to put them back to work ? I have yet to hear a coherent plan from the Obama campaign for this. Can we discuss the potential for getting the now chronically unemployed back to work ? "
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 10, 2012 08:12AM
I write my threads, you write yours.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: July 10, 2012 08:14AM
Just trying to help. We're badly outnumbered, and I'm trying to raise the bar a bit.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Sam3
Date: July 10, 2012 08:22AM
cbelt3, you may call yourself, and actually be a conservative, but you are far to the left of Avenger, samintx, Swampy and a few others here. A conservative-leaning moderate might be a better description.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: July 10, 2012 08:26AM
Sam, of course. I consider myself a true conservative. Not one of these johhny come lately neocon nimrods.

Conservation is the key. It's a Connecticut Yankee thing. Helps if you spent time on a farm and out in the wilderness.. then you understand how the world actually works. City folk don't understand cycles and supply and demand. They think the infrastructure that they depend on for everything is 'their right' and just magically appeared.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: July 10, 2012 08:37AM
>>City folk don't understand cycles and supply and demand. They think the infrastructure that they depend on for everything is 'their right' and just magically appeared.

nuts smiley



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: billb
Date: July 10, 2012 08:53AM


there's an awful lot of closed stores around here.

Mom and pops hit hard especially. Two of my favorite non-chain restaurants are gone.

I suppose if you only frequent Walmart you wouldn't notice.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 10, 2012 09:11AM
Someone(Belty?) make a case that their lives have suffered because 15 million people are out of work. What can't you do now that you could before? If the answer is nothing, then what were these people doing before?
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Black
Date: July 10, 2012 09:30AM
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mattkime
nuts smiley
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: decay
Date: July 10, 2012 09:33AM
planes might not crash as often if they were inspected and maintained properly.

that would involve hiring some workers.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: July 10, 2012 10:09AM
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Avenger
Someone(Belty?) make a case that their lives have suffered because 15 million people are out of work. What can't you do now that you could before? If the answer is nothing, then what were these people doing before?

dakotanomics!



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Manlove
Date: July 10, 2012 11:58AM
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Sam3
cbelt3, you may call yourself, and actually be a conservative, but you are far to the left of Avenger, samintx, Swampy and a few others here. A conservative-leaning moderate might be a better description.

Dare I say a rational man with a few unfortunate conservative tendencies!
(I dared)
"Conservation is the key. It's a Connecticut Yankee thing. Helps if you spent time on a farm and out in the wilderness.. then you understand how the world actually works."
Yes, the future to some extent is uncertain. We know there will be seasonal fluctuations, but we don't know if there will be hurricanes or widespread drought (although apparently the seasonal fluctuations are ...fluctuating more it seems). Because of our uncertainty, we hold something back. We keep it from the common trust. It becomes 'ours' not 'theirs' and we will defend it from the commoners who have no right to 'take' it from us.
There comes a time though, when we who aren't working on the farms still feel that we need to defend something from the common trust but have forgotten quite what it was.
The cry goes up, "I earned that money and I'm damned if I'm going to share it with you" via taxation. "It's mine. I won't benefit from your child being ...(fill in the blank) (I suggest - well fed, properly educated, with full health care), therefore I don't want to pay tax for them."
In a Neanderthal world where might is right and defending what's yours is all there is, I agree 100% with being of a conservative bent, but we don't live in that world, or at least, we can choose not to.

Obviously this is not me trying to put words into your mouth, but it feels somehow right for the majority. Please elucidate upon the Connecticut Yankee thing, for someone without a degree in American history. Thanks.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 10, 2012 12:11PM
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cbelt3
Sam, of course. I consider myself a true conservative. Not one of these johhny come lately neocon nimrods.

Conservation is the key. It's a Connecticut Yankee thing. Helps if you spent time on a farm and out in the wilderness.. then you understand how the world actually works. City folk don't understand cycles and supply and demand. They think the infrastructure that they depend on for everything is 'their right' and just magically appeared.

Bingo!
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: swampy
Date: July 10, 2012 12:58PM
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cbelt3
Sam, of course. I consider myself a true conservative. Not one of these johhny come lately neocon nimrods.

Conservation is the key. It's a Connecticut Yankee thing. Helps if you spent time on a farm and out in the wilderness.. then you understand how the world actually works. City folk don't understand cycles and supply and demand. They think the infrastructure that they depend on for everything is 'their right' and just magically appeared.

patriot smiley



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Manlove
Date: July 10, 2012 01:07PM
"Bingo" and an American flag waving are not elucidations!
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 10, 2012 01:26PM
WTF with the "city" nonsense? I'd love to watch these oh-so-wise farmers running their businesses without the tractors and combines and fuel and computers and trucks and electricity and irrigation systems and corn pickers and pesticides and herbicides and banks and refrigerators and supermarkets and clothing which are the fruits of urban and suburban companies and employees. It's as if the farmers think that entire infrastructure is "their right" and just magically appeared!







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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: July 10, 2012 01:35PM
ml-

Well, I worked on my grandfather's farm in Connecticut. And it's a reference to the Mark Twain book. Connecticut Yankees are purported to be reserved, creative, and matter of fact. The ones I knew are somewhat like that.

I was also raised a Roman Catholic. Now at the time a Catholic was taught to help others, feed the hungry, clothe and shelter the poor. It's still the case, but the Catholics you hear about in the press are the ones who abuse children, pester politicians, and generally act in a highly un-Christian manner.

So how does a classic Catholic Conservative Conservationist handle today's politics ?

Mostly, we barf smiley

$tevie-
Farmers pay through the nose for those things. They know what they cost down to the penny.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: August West
Date: July 10, 2012 01:41PM
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They know what they cost down to the penny.

Along with all the agricultural subsidies that are out there.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 10, 2012 01:48PM
I lived on the Eastern Shore of Maryland in a county of 16,000 people and the "farmer kids" in my class were no more enlightened about life than those of us who lived in town.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Manlove
Date: July 10, 2012 01:54PM
"So how does a classic Catholic Conservative Conservationist handle today's politics ?

Mostly, we barf smiley"

eye twitch smiley

Thanks. You are a reasonable man. Still conservative, but ...
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: p8712
Date: July 10, 2012 02:51PM
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August West
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They know what they cost down to the penny.

Along with all the agricultural subsidies that are out there.

That doesn't count! Farmers are real americans - they earned their handout!

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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 10, 2012 02:58PM
I got mine, screw everybody else. They shouldn't be so stupid. If everything works for me and mine, then it all works just fine. Good fortune, happenstance and luck had nothing to do with my great success. Hard work, superior intellect and solid moral fortitude formed the ground floor launching pad to my glory.

This is the truth and the way. Too many "others" want to simply jump the gun and skip all of the crucial steps that builds lasting success. This is why they disgust me (they know who they are). I'm brilliant.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 10, 2012 03:06PM
>>I got mine, screw everybody else<<

You are probably one of those who rolls up his window and looks the other way as the panhandler approaches at traffic light. Here, you can of course grandstand all day since nobody knowns "vision63".
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 10, 2012 03:13PM
Funny, that's what explains your whole existence here. Why else would someone join a Mac forum to do almost nothing but troll political topics?
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 10, 2012 03:29PM
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Carnos Jax
Funny, that's what explains your whole existence here. Why else would someone join a Mac forum to do almost nothing but troll political topics?
Not to mention that he begged to be allowed back in here.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: August West
Date: July 10, 2012 03:41PM
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Why else would someone join a Mac forum to do almost nothing but troll political topics?

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Not to mention that he begged to be allowed back in here.

Pathetic.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 10, 2012 03:46PM
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$tevie
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Carnos Jax
Funny, that's what explains your whole existence here. Why else would someone join a Mac forum to do almost nothing but troll political topics?
Not to mention that he begged to be allowed back in here.

And you still can't stay away from me. How many posts do you have in this thread?
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 10, 2012 03:59PM
Once again, you make irrelevant arguments and instead resort to school yard level 'come backs'.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 10, 2012 04:24PM
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Avenger
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$tevie
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Carnos Jax
Funny, that's what explains your whole existence here. Why else would someone join a Mac forum to do almost nothing but troll political topics?
Not to mention that he begged to be allowed back in here.

And you still can't stay away from me. How many posts do you have in this thread?

Three. Two that were addressing cbelt and one mocking you.

Now four! Four posts on this thread!




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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Manlove
Date: July 10, 2012 04:39PM
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vision63
I got mine, screw everybody else. They shouldn't be so stupid. If everything works for me and mine, then it all works just fine. Good fortune, happenstance and luck had nothing to do with my great success. Hard work, superior intellect and solid moral fortitude formed the ground floor launching pad to my glory.

This is the truth and the way. Too many "others" want to simply jump the gun and skip all of the crucial steps that builds lasting success. This is why they disgust me (they know who they are). I'm brilliant.

From the little I've seen, this is perfect satire. Avenger, you really do portray yourself like this. Of course, you can't see it, but that's why it is so good.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: July 10, 2012 07:46PM
Seriously, Dakota gets an ego boost because we post in "his" thread. He obsesses over his thread count and feels especially proud when he snares us in one of his juvenile threads. The classic signs of a troll and a loser.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 10, 2012 08:50PM
I hope he's thankful to be at a forum where his immature idiosyncrasies are permitted to blossom. I know I'm thankful to be allowed to nip those blooms in the bud.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 10, 2012 09:09PM
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Carnos Jax
I hope he's thankful to be at a forum where his immature idiosyncrasies are permitted to blossom. I know I'm thankful to be allowed to nip those blooms in the bud.

Avenger/Dakota is not stupid.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 10, 2012 09:36PM
>>Now four! Four posts on this thread!<<

That is four more than you should have. Now seriously, did you HAVE to pick on me then complain? Just make your point and go on. If you don't like the subject of the thread, stay away.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Spock
Date: July 10, 2012 09:39PM
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vision63
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Carnos Jax
I hope he's thankful to be at a forum where his immature idiosyncrasies are permitted to blossom. I know I'm thankful to be allowed to nip those blooms in the bud.

Avenger/Dakota is not stupid.

Assumes facts not in evidence.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 10, 2012 09:42PM
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Avenger
>>Now four! Four posts on this thread!<<

That is four more than you should have. Now seriously, did you HAVE to pick on me then complain? Just make your point and go on. If you don't like the subject of the thread, stay away.

You don't have the right to post whatever you want and expect people to not criticize it. And considering most of your posts are belligerent and/or trollish in nature, you have no right to complain when people make fun of them.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 10, 2012 09:45PM
She is not criticizing my posts. she is b#$*g about ME.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 10, 2012 11:05PM
Oh, get over yourself, Dakota. You love it. It's like your life blood.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 11, 2012 02:01AM
PS: you made a conscious decision to be the forum troll. You have to expect that you are going to be treated as such. You reap what you sow.



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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Avenger
Date: July 11, 2012 08:27AM
Bring it on.
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Re: How come everything still runs with 15 million people out of work?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 11, 2012 09:50AM
Yet you complain...
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