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The End of Democracy
Posted by: BCam
Date: September 18, 2006 02:16AM
Please, watch the linked video from Princeton University and send it to everyone you think cares about Freedom in America. This is terrifying stuff, and no - this isn't "Friendly Political Ranting" - this is essentially a terrorist attack on our country.

In 2003, Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold, announced that he had been a top fund-raiser for President George W. Bush. In a letter dated August 14, 2003 in which he invited guests to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser at his suburban Columbus mansion, O'Dell stated that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

[www.youtube.com]

Just to be fair and balanced:

[newsblogs.chicagotribune.com]

and then there's this about Florida in 2000:

[alternet.org]
(watch and listen to this sworn U.S House of Representative hearing testimony)


Steps to take:
1. Contact your board of elections
2. Contact your secretary of state
3. Write letters to the editor
4. Add this video to your favorites, rate, comment and share.
5. Vote absentee until this problem is corrected, even if you're lucky enough to be somewhere not using electronic voting--increased absentee voting will help bring attention to the issue.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: September 18, 2006 03:21AM
> no - this isn't "Friendly Political Ranting"

Yes, it is.

And I join you in your friendly political message with the rest of my post...

A system of representative government should have transparent, reliable and verifiable measures in place to ensure that votes are counted properly.

Between the flaws in the voting machines, the inadequate training and negligence of polling-place operators and the cover-ups by both the manufacturers and by election officials, we don't have that in America.

Such a state of affairs should never have come to be. We are an embarrassment to the world and to ourselves. That this sad state of affairs should ever occur -- whether or not any election was actually rigged -- is an affront to all patriotic Americans. That fixing it is not a priority to our political leaders is anathema to our common ideology.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: Sam3
Date: September 18, 2006 05:17AM
This needs to be in the 'Friendly'Political Ranting forum NOT this one. This is a tips and deals and friendly discussions forum.

This is politicdal and can be utilized as bait for ranting.

Can this and the following post be moved, please?
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: Glued
Date: September 18, 2006 06:10AM
Agreed, this post is definitely in the wrong forum.
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The End of Democracy
Posted by: BCam
Date: September 18, 2006 06:12AM
-- moved topic --
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The End of Democracy
Posted by: BCam
Date: September 18, 2006 02:17AM
Please, watch the linked video from Princeton University and send it to everyone you think cares about Freedom in America. This is terrifying stuff, and no - this isn't "Friendly Political Ranting" - this is essentially a terrorist attack on our country.

In 2003, Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold, announced that he had been a top fund-raiser for President George W. Bush. In a letter dated August 14, 2003 in which he invited guests to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser at his suburban Columbus mansion, O'Dell stated that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

[www.youtube.com]

Just to be fair and balanced:

[newsblogs.chicagotribune.com]

and then there's this about Florida in 2000:

[alternet.org]
(watch and listen to this sworn U.S House of Representative hearing testimony)


Steps to take:
1. Contact your board of elections
2. Contact your secretary of state
3. Write letters to the editor
4. Add this video to your favorites, rate, comment and share.
5. Vote absentee until this problem is corrected, even if you're lucky enough to be somewhere not using electronic voting--increased absentee voting will help bring attention to the issue.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: Sam3
Date: September 18, 2006 05:32AM
Thanks for posting this on this side.

Lots of interesting responses in the Trib blog.

Voting needs to be opena nd transparent. Therefore electronic voting needs to have a transparent OS and application, i.e. it needs to be open-sourced so that anyone can look at the coding to make sure that no shenanigans are taking place.

Not good that the Diebolds do not leave a verifiable paper trail either.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: SteveJobs
Date: September 18, 2006 06:15AM
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 18, 2006 10:06AM
ya know, there are also a lot of links on who whot JFK, JR, and so forth. Why don't you post them too ?
Really, this stuff has been done to death around here. Next !
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: jimbrady
Date: September 18, 2006 10:50AM
> this stuff has been done to death around here. Next !

Sounds like the votin' 'puters are friendly to your point of view.



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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: billb
Date: September 18, 2006 02:45PM
I had to blow the dust off it first.


Just when you believe the lunatic fringe has faded away, some one comes along to prove you wrong.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: BCam
Date: September 18, 2006 05:54PM
billb:

You don't find the potential tactic of stealing votes in a national election, and thus actually stealing the national election, is no cause for concern? I thought that's why we invaded Iraq, to give freedom loving, yet oppressed, people a chance to have their voices heard and votes count.

And it really doesn't matter how deep the dust is, it's kinda like murder, there ain't to statue of limitations on that kind of treason, even from the point of view of a lunatic.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: herbiesyufy
Date: September 19, 2006 03:35PM
Wait...democracy is over?

Damn! I missed it! Will it be rerun on the USA Network?
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: September 19, 2006 04:52PM
Your best bet is probably You Tube.



Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 20, 2006 02:00AM
Quote
herbiesyufy
Wait...democracy is over?

Damn! I missed it! Will it be rerun on the USA Network?

Not sure about USA reruns, but if it runs on Fox it'll be a first run for them.



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2006 02:05AM by RgrF.
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Re: The End of Democracy
Posted by: Jp!
Date: June 20, 2007 05:57AM
testing..

just curious WHO has email notification on these threads. ;) (I DON'T)
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