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Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: May 10, 2017 04:51PM
I know Trump has only a handful of days so far, but you have to look at the records to compare:


With two wars and a world economic collapse,
Bush is still the Worst President Ever.
(Add in Dick Cheney for bonus points)
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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: vision63
Date: May 10, 2017 05:57PM
I'm rolling with Andrew Johnson. He started Jim Crow. Not to diminish the horror of Bush's two wars but we lost a grand total of about 8 thousand service personnel. Compare that with Vietnam, Korea and The Big Wars.
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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 10, 2017 06:52PM
It's too early to evaluate 45 on battle and terrorism deaths, 43 had almost 9 months to ignore warnings before 9/11 happened.

Better medical treatment resulted in about half as many deaths from serious battle injuries than Vietnam. There are over 950,000 Iraq and Afghanistan vets with recorded injuries, the estimate of those with TBI is up to 350,000.



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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: bfd
Date: May 10, 2017 07:08PM
Yellowcake?
Green Eggs and Ham?

or just a regular ol' $#!tsammich?
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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: gabester
Date: May 10, 2017 07:16PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
There are over 950,000 Iraq and Afghanistan vets with recorded injuries, the estimate of those with TBI is up to 350,000.

A very important point... how many wounded were there from other actions, like Viet Nam or Korea?
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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 10, 2017 07:36PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
There are over 950,000 Iraq and Afghanistan vets with recorded injuries, the estimate of those with TBI is up to 350,000.

A very important point... how many wounded were there from other actions, like Viet Nam or Korea?

It is hard to compare because a lot of the counted injuries in Iraq and Afghanistan would not have been classified as official wounded soldiers in Vietnam. Since I was just looking it it, the number for Vietnam is around "304,000 wounded." There are no numbers for TBI from that era so it could add 100,000.



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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 10, 2017 08:48PM
Pres. Reagan started the train rolling that got us to this point. He gets my vote. Pres. Bush just built on it.



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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: sekker
Date: May 10, 2017 11:29PM
Trump is still on pace to be the worst ever.
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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: May 10, 2017 11:38PM
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Speedy
Pres. Reagan started the train rolling that got us to this point. He gets my vote.

But I saw a documentary on TV just after Reagan passed away that said that Reagan was the bestest and most popular President in history. Reagan was kind and thoughtful, and far too much was made out of the whole "arms for hostages" kerfuffle -- he just cared too much, that's all, and deserves the benefit of the doubt for illegally selling arms to Iran while simultaneously arming Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war.

It was on TV, so it must be true.
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Re: Here's the score: No Complete Financial Collapse. No Full Scale Wars.
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 11, 2017 07:26AM
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Steve G.
With two wars and a world economic collapse,
Bush is still the Worst President Ever.
(Add in Dick Cheney for bonus points)

BUT 57 STATES!
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