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That's wide
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: January 19, 2007 09:23AM
Is this the first in the US or are there others?

Eighteen lanes wide in places?

[uk.news.yahoo.com]
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: rickard5
Date: January 19, 2007 09:54AM
Yea baby we do it BIGGER and BETTER in TEXAS. Too BAD that article is tainted by LIBERAL BS
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: January 19, 2007 11:25AM
Why can't they just build a second or third tier like most places are doing?

Seems pretty stupid to widen in this day and age, and getting rid of the rail line will come back to haunt them big time.

Elected officials should be able to at least score above the 35% percentile on the Sims City game before taking office.


Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: January 19, 2007 11:52AM
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Effin Haole
Why can't they just build a second or third tier like most places are doing?
Probably because it would be much cheaper to widen the existing freeway. Widening only requires levelling the ground, paving it, and making sure rainfall has adequate drainage from the road surface. Multi-tiered freeways require a great deal more initial structure as well as more expensive upkeep in the long run.

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Effin Haole
Seems pretty stupid to widen in this day and age, and getting rid of the rail line will come back to haunt them big time.
In some areas widening isn't an option, but one thing Texas has no shortage of is space for expansion.

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Effin Haole
Elected officials should be able to at least score above the 35% percentile on the Sims City game before taking office.
Agreed. smiling smiley
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 19, 2007 12:08PM
It's our multi-lane highways that they hate.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: January 19, 2007 01:07PM
What's funny is, you Brits actually think Texas is part of the U.S.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: billb
Date: January 19, 2007 01:17PM
18 lanes in some stretches.

It's not like they don't have room for it.
(so far)


Buzzard field.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: January 19, 2007 01:34PM
It seems clear that this is only the first step in an attempt to reduce the ferocious traffic entering Houston.

It's a little known fact that adding lanes is only half of the equation for reducing traffic. The other half is intelligent design of on-ramps... the fewer the number of on-ramps, the fewer slowdowns for entering cars.

Given that they have gone to the extreme of making an 18-lane highway, it seems clear that the next step is to completely eliminate entrances to the highway.

When you think about it, it's the perfect solution o Houston's traffic problems. And it has the added benefit of limiting the number of illegal immigrants who can enter Houston on any given day.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: the_poochies
Date: January 19, 2007 02:14PM
I haven't been to Houston since 1992 and found it to be an ugly, polluted excuse for a city. I have no desire to ever go back there.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: MikeF
Date: January 19, 2007 02:29PM
What the article doesn't mention is that it's only 4 normal lanes with 14 passing lanes...

Or by the time you get into the carpool lane in the middle, you're in Louisiana.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: JoeM
Date: January 19, 2007 02:48PM
18 lanes of Texans, all driving...this should be interesting.


JoeM
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: January 19, 2007 03:54PM
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JoeM
18 lanes of Texans, all driving and armed...this should be interesting.

Fixed that for ya.




I am not Ryan Seacrest, and I do not approve this message.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: billb
Date: January 19, 2007 04:41PM
Actually, it may be 26 lanes in some places when it's done.

This must be the Katy Freeway.

It has ancillary roads now, to minimize entrance /exit ramps.
2-lane westbound ancillary, 3-west bound, 1HOV west . 12 lanes total.
They're just doubling that.

To be fair, that's not one 18 lane wide expanse of asphalt. It's several parallel roads.
4 to 6 HOV lanes, (2+2,3+3) , then highway, then the parrallel ancillary roads, which provide access to cross-roads.


Edit: IIRC, the posted speed limit is 80MPH day/65MPH night.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2007 04:44PM by billb.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Panopticon
Date: January 19, 2007 04:51PM
Just another example of one of the biggest ongoing frauds in the US, highway construction. Politicos of all flavors have their hands in this cookie jar. Worse than the outright graft and bribes, is the construction will be shoddy, concrete way too thin, and like thousands of others, will need Millions of dollars in repairs within 12 months of completion.

The roadway thickness for US interstates averages less that 6 inches. European legislation requires a minimum of 30cm (8.11 inches). The Autobahn averages 27 inches thick! We build cheap roads in the US for premium prices. Another way election campaigns are funded and the wealthy get wealthier.

Was anyone really surprised when the 'Mob' got into the concrete biz?
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: rickard5
Date: January 19, 2007 10:41PM
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Seacrest
What's funny is, you Brits actually think Texas is part of the U.S.
Yea that is funny, let's see now You bunch of F'n YANKEES CAME DOWN HERE AND INVADED AND OCCUPIED A SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC, and act all smug about it!!! but here's the REAL FUNNY as HELL PART of it our Gov, the man who Signed the LAW and the licence that allows me to carry a concealed Weapon, is now running your country ! not just for 4 years but for 8. and the funnest part is he's up there pissing you liberal PIN HEADS off by injecting some good Christian Morality in to your other wise HEATHEN lives! and undoing all the damage that the last Liberal IDIOT did to your U.S. and our SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC!!!!
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: rickard5
Date: January 19, 2007 10:44PM
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the_poochies
I haven't been to Houston since 1992 and found it to be an ugly, polluted excuse for a city.

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the_poochies
I have no desire to ever go back there.


GOOD is THAT a promise ?
I think we'll do fine with out your FEW tourist Dollars
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: rickard5
Date: January 19, 2007 10:49PM
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JoeM
18 lanes of Texans, all driving...this should be interesting.
God KNOWS I exercise My constitutional RIGHT to keep and Bare Arms,
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: January 19, 2007 10:52PM
Texas, where if God wanted Texans to ski, he would have made bullsh!t white.

90% of the state is wasteland, but there are a few oasis' to be found here and there.

Hint: DFW/HOU ain't it.


Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 19, 2007 11:03PM
How many people have you shot? You can go start with Tom Delay.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: MikeF
Date: January 20, 2007 12:47AM
I once read that European highways were bid based on the total cost and maintenance for some long time (like 30 years).

Here in the good ole USA, it's lowest bidder most likely, and that's just for the construction. Maintenance doesn't figure in usually...
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 20, 2007 02:20AM
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MikeF
I once read that European highways were bid based on the total cost and maintenance for some long time (like 30 years).

Here in the good ole USA, it's lowest bidder most likely, and that's just for the construction. Maintenance doesn't figure in usually...

That system might have been interesting if used on the (Boston) Big Dig. Somebody would today be bankrupt with the State/Federal govs picking up the maintainance/repair tab.


"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2007 02:21AM by RgrF.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: outcast
Date: January 20, 2007 02:22AM
Hell, if Texas wants out of the Union I say let 'em go! That State is costing all of the rest of us money in terms of Federal Spending Received Per Dollar of Taxes Paid by State. As of 2004 they had moved up to number 18, taking $1.30 for every $1.00 they put in.

It would be intriguing to see some more up to date data.

[www.taxfoundation.org]


outcast
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 20, 2007 03:39AM
Hey, we Californians only get $.79 cents back! We're getting ripped off.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: JoeM
Date: January 20, 2007 08:05AM
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rickard5
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Seacrest
What's funny is, you Brits actually think Texas is part of the U.S.
Yea that is funny, let's see now You bunch of F'n YANKEES CAME DOWN HERE AND INVADED AND OCCUPIED A SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC, and act all smug about it!!! but here's the REAL FUNNY as HELL PART of it our Gov, the man who Signed the LAW and the licence that allows me to carry a concealed Weapon, is now running your country ! not just for 4 years but for 8. and the funnest part is he's up there pissing you liberal PIN HEADS off by injecting some good Christian Morality in to your other wise HEATHEN lives! and undoing all the damage that the last Liberal IDIOT did to your U.S. and our SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC!!!!

Must be something in the water down there.


JoeM
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: bernadette
Date: January 20, 2007 10:06AM
Adding extra lanes to a highway so more cars can use it is just adding to global pollution. Shouldn't you be thinking of a way to reduce it rather than add to it, after all, it's not just a problem that will affect the USA in the not too distant future.
That's why it's called "Global pollution".
I do understand that most of your shopping centers are situated away from town and city centers, so the need for transportation is in a different league to GB, but there must be a more environmentally friendly way to get people from A to B.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: January 20, 2007 05:23PM
Horse & buggy.


Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 20, 2007 07:00PM
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rickard5
God KNOWS I exercise My constitutional RIGHT to keep and Bare Arms,

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Re: That's wide
Posted by: rickard5
Date: January 20, 2007 11:28PM
Git-R-Done
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 21, 2007 12:21AM



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: January 21, 2007 12:47AM
I have to say, in a way Kumtwat is right about Texas.

How else to explain the bigger and better @#$%& in the White House?


Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: davester
Date: January 21, 2007 12:57AM
What exactly in Houston is worth driving to? It would make sense to have an 18 lane road leaving town, but there just don't seem to be any other destinations worth hurrying to.


"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 21, 2007 01:15AM
Actually it works Davester. The I-10 is the through Houston highway also known as the Katy Freeway, it allows one to paas through Houston uncontaminated, but raises the question...WTF wants to go to Sugarland or Katy, Texas?

It use to be the destination for those wanting to kneel in front of Tom DeLay but that's history. Best they could hope for today is to break down in front of max's house.


"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2007 01:16AM by RgrF.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: rickard5
Date: January 21, 2007 11:49AM
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: incognegro
Date: January 21, 2007 10:47PM
let's give Texas away to Mexico.

then build a solid wall all the way around it.

rename it TexMex, or MexTex.

King George the Lesser can be its dictator.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: rickard5
Date: January 22, 2007 10:31AM
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incognegro
let's give Texas away to Mexico.
Well Just Remember the Alamo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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incognegro
then build a solid wall all the way around it.
GOOD IDEA it might help keep the Yankee and left coast liberals out !!!!!!

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incognegro
rename it TexMex, or MexTex.
How About THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS [www.texasrepublic.com]

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incognegro
King George the Lesser can be its dictator.
We'd be Proud to have GW Back as our leader,Tell ya what just to be Fair we'll send you Prince JEB to Rule you in the same Kind and benevolent way GW has and will !!!!!
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: January 22, 2007 11:10AM
Proud?

(Snicker)

You probably would be.

Send Jeb over, it's not like he will get very far (especially when sent by Texas). Jeb is smart enough to keep a low profile to avoid any deep investigating.


Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: That's wide
Posted by: trisho.
Date: January 26, 2007 07:09AM
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Effin Haole
Jeb is smart enough to keep a low profile to avoid any deep investigating.

Unfortunately true.


trisho.
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