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Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 31, 2019 04:51PM
Sorry, Marianne Williamson makes my skin crawl. It may be interesting to see the gang tonight...

...or I could continue binge watching season four of The Magicians, which I like more every episode.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: July 31, 2019 05:58PM
> guaranteed no Marianne Williamson

I think she was better last night than I have ever seen her before.

“I look at some of you and I almost wonder why you’re Democrats”

That was a stellar moment.



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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 31, 2019 06:07PM
Nope, still reading my book. (It's been years since I've held an actual paper and pasteboard book in hand-this one wasn't available as an e-book)
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: $tevie
Date: July 31, 2019 06:37PM
Yep, me and my iPhone and my Twitter feed and my games.



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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Date: July 31, 2019 07:12PM
Williamson is the most entertaining. It's like having a female Jerry Brown.

On to the show...

D & C
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 07:33PM
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Dazed & Confused (Mobile)
Williamson is the most entertaining. It's like having a female Jerry Brown.

She wishes. Not even close.

I'm watching tonight.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 31, 2019 07:35PM
These aren't debates, they've become network rating spectacles. Take away the ability to sell advertising around them and they'd end up on PBS or C-SPAN.

For the sake of the Republic that might not be a bad thing.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 07:35PM
Finally! Thank you VP Biden. Yes, implement Obamacare as it was intended. Get rid of Trump's junk plans. That's the only option if we're not moving to single payer (aka Medicare for All)

Except now he's being dope grandpa. Never mind.



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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 07:45PM
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RgrF
These aren't debates, they've become network rating spectacles. Take away the ability to sell advertising around them and they'd end up on PBS or C-SPAN.

For the sake of the Republic that might not be a bad thing.

The questions would be a lot better. Last night's were pretty terrible.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 07:47PM
Oh and I love my governor. Yes, mental health. (No he's not a contender but he's a good guy)
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 31, 2019 07:52PM
Just turned to it a few minutes ago. Not much depth. By and large these are intelligent people Wassup with Tulsi? Reminds me of the Pirates, Reds brawl. DeBlasio has a big mouth. What's that little gesture you make with your fingers to describe a lot of money? Biden keeps doing that after everybody talks about their medical plan.



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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: July 31, 2019 08:30PM
This is the Torpedo Biden edition of the debates. Harris is banging the Biden-as-friend-of-the-racist drum again. Gabbard is ‘let’s look at everybody’s record then’ counterpunching though. They’re gunning for Biden. He survived last time, we’ll see how he fares this round.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 08:48PM
I do like the "anybody on this stage would be better than Trump" line that many of them are saying. We need this.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 09:03PM
I might have tuned out a bit, did I miss the questions about the economy?

Hello CNN?

Finally, here we go.



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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 09:50PM
Booker can preach. I like listening to him.


Joe303033303 what?



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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 31, 2019 10:00PM
They attack Kamala as if the county has no lawbreakers. we're swimming in crime.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2019 10:05PM
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vision63
They attack Kamala as if the county has no lawbreakers. we're swimming in crime.

She wasn't having it.
She stayed cool and stayed tough and she's proud of her record.

She wasn't the strongest voice tonight, neither was Biden, though both did well. Yeah they were both dodging a lot of arrows.

I think Booker won the night with message and tone.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 31, 2019 11:55PM
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Lemon Drop
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vision63
They attack Kamala as if the county has no lawbreakers. we're swimming in crime.

She wasn't having it.
She stayed cool and stayed tough and she's proud of her record.

She wasn't the strongest voice tonight, neither was Biden, though both did well. Yeah they were both dodging a lot of arrows.

I think Booker won the night with message and tone.

Booker is the most polished. I know he's sincere but he sounds like he's acting a part. Always trying to justify his cred.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 01, 2019 12:21AM
There are only 3 contenders, the rest are justifying the money sunk into them and looking toward the next go round.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: August 01, 2019 01:28AM
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vision63
They attack Kamala as if the county has no lawbreakers. we're swimming in crime.

We're really not. That's a political scare-tactic. It's not based on fact.

Violent crimes, in particular, while up a bit under Drumpf, are way down overall in recent decades.

Peak for most was 1970s, with some cities continuing to trend upward into the late 1980s and even to 1990, but by mid-1990s, it was all trending downward and in most cities violent crime is way way way down.

Drumpf ran on a bunch of lies about the murder rates in Chicago and other cities. He made up fake numbers. There was a modest bump year-over-year between 2014-2015 in Chicago, but nowhere near the 5,000 murders he claimed and it looks like a small bump when you graph it.

I'd google for the graphs for you, but honestly, if you don't already know that you've been fed a bunch of lies about violence by politicians trying to scare you into voting their way and news organizations going after ratings and ad-revenue then there's not much I can do to convince you otherwise and it's not worth my effort.



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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 01, 2019 08:34AM
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Sarcany
... Drumpf ran on a bunch of lies about the murder rates in Chicago and other cities. He made up fake numbers ....

Chicago's a good example because of the lax gun laws less than an hour away across the state line. Conservatives will no doubt use the Gilroy, CA killings similarly to "show" how gun laws "don't work."
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 01, 2019 08:58AM
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vision63
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Lemon Drop
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vision63
They attack Kamala as if the county has no lawbreakers. we're swimming in crime.

She wasn't having it.
She stayed cool and stayed tough and she's proud of her record.

She wasn't the strongest voice tonight, neither was Biden, though both did well. Yeah they were both dodging a lot of arrows.

I think Booker won the night with message and tone.

Booker is the most polished. I know he's sincere but he sounds like he's acting a part. Always trying to justify his cred.


He was about the only one who brought some hope and joy into that thing, which I appreciated because it was pretty dark and dry otherwise. That's to be expected because we're in dark times but I want that positive, reassuring message. Eventually the person who takes up this mantle is going to have to achieve that.
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: bfd
Date: August 01, 2019 12:24PM
Very little to see except that NONE of them is really likely to ignite a crowd like the Orange Man
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: vision63
Date: August 01, 2019 01:46PM
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Sarcany
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vision63
They attack Kamala as if the county has no lawbreakers. we're swimming in crime.

We're really not. That's a political scare-tactic. It's not based on fact.

Violent crimes, in particular, while up a bit under Drumpf, are way down overall in recent decades.

Peak for most was 1970s, with some cities continuing to trend upward into the late 1980s and even to 1990, but by mid-1990s, it was all trending downward and in most cities violent crime is way way way down.

Drumpf ran on a bunch of lies about the murder rates in Chicago and other cities. He made up fake numbers. There was a modest bump year-over-year between 2014-2015 in Chicago, but nowhere near the 5,000 murders he claimed and it looks like a small bump when you graph it.

I'd google for the graphs for you, but honestly, if you don't already know that you've been fed a bunch of lies about violence by politicians trying to scare you into voting their way and news organizations going after ratings and ad-revenue then there's not much I can do to convince you otherwise and it's not worth my effort.

I'm not fooled by anyone or anything ever except for personal people I trust and love
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: bfd
Date: August 01, 2019 02:09PM
20 miles south of Downtown San Diego the murders are heating up rapidly …



But it's a dry heat
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Re: Okay, are you watching TONIGHT'S debate (guaranteed no Marianne Williamson)
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: August 01, 2019 05:29PM
Now you made me go and do it.


California








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