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Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: sekker
Date: August 10, 2019 02:33PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: August 10, 2019 02:53PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 10, 2019 03:09PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: August 10, 2019 03:19PM
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Lemon Drop
As long as both Congress and the Supreme Court protect gun manufacturers from liability when their products are used for violence, I don't think a financial solution is going to work with guns although I love the idea. Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005 that removes liability from manufacturers in most cases. Last week Remington, maker of the weapon used by the Sandy Hook shooter and subject of many lawsuits from those families, asked the Supreme Court to block a Connecticut decision to allow those lawsuits to move forward. That decision is going to be key.
Putting a big tax on guns (like the one on cigarettes) carries an acknowledgement that the product itself is harmful. We've got a ways to go before enough politicians will admit that. We'll see if SCOTUS helps us out.
Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: August 10, 2019 03:22PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: August 10, 2019 03:33PM
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macphanatic
So, are we going to hold car manufacturers liable for drunk driving deaths? How about the alcohol manufacturers? How about knife manufacturers for stabbing deaths or kitchen pan manufacturers for bludgeoning deaths? People can find all kinds of illegal uses for legal products. It is time that we hold individuals accountable for their actions and poor behavior. We have become a nation that accepts the shifting of blame.
Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 10, 2019 03:38PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 10, 2019 03:45PM
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Lemon Drop
As long as both Congress and the Supreme Court protect gun manufacturers from liability when their products are used for violence, I don't think a financial solution is going to work with guns although I love the idea. Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005 that removes liability from manufacturers in most cases. Last week Remington, maker of the weapon used by the Sandy Hook shooter and subject of many lawsuits from those families, asked the Supreme Court to block a Connecticut decision to allow those lawsuits to move forward. That decision is going to be key.
Putting a big tax on guns (like the one on cigarettes) carries an acknowledgement that the product itself is harmful. We've got a ways to go before enough politicians will admit that. We'll see if SCOTUS helps us out.
So, are we going to hold car manufacturers liable for drunk driving deaths? How about the alcohol manufacturers? How about knife manufacturers for stabbing deaths or kitchen pan manufacturers for bludgeoning deaths? People can find all kinds of illegal uses for legal products. It is time that we hold individuals accountable for their actions and poor behavior. We have become a nation that accepts the shifting of blame.
Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 10, 2019 05:11PM
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@macphanatic
The one flaw in your argument is that in contrast to your examples, only guns are expressly made for killing things.
Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: hal
Date: August 10, 2019 05:25PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 10, 2019 06:52PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: August 11, 2019 12:34PM
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Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 11, 2019 09:19PM
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Lemon Drop
As long as both Congress and the Supreme Court protect gun manufacturers from liability when their products are used for violence, I don't think a financial solution is going to work with guns although I love the idea. Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005 that removes liability from manufacturers in most cases. Last week Remington, maker of the weapon used by the Sandy Hook shooter and subject of many lawsuits from those families, asked the Supreme Court to block a Connecticut decision to allow those lawsuits to move forward. That decision is going to be key.
Putting a big tax on guns (like the one on cigarettes) carries an acknowledgement that the product itself is harmful. We've got a ways to go before enough politicians will admit that. We'll see if SCOTUS helps us out.
So, are we going to hold car manufacturers liable for drunk driving deaths? How about the alcohol manufacturers? How about knife manufacturers for stabbing deaths or kitchen pan manufacturers for bludgeoning deaths? People can find all kinds of illegal uses for legal products. It is time that we hold individuals accountable for their actions and poor behavior. We have become a nation that accepts the shifting of blame.
Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: August 13, 2019 06:31AM
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Lemon Drop
As long as both Congress and the Supreme Court protect gun manufacturers from liability when their products are used for violence, I don't think a financial solution is going to work with guns although I love the idea. Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005 that removes liability from manufacturers in most cases. Last week Remington, maker of the weapon used by the Sandy Hook shooter and subject of many lawsuits from those families, asked the Supreme Court to block a Connecticut decision to allow those lawsuits to move forward. That decision is going to be key.
Putting a big tax on guns (like the one on cigarettes) carries an acknowledgement that the product itself is harmful. We've got a ways to go before enough politicians will admit that. We'll see if SCOTUS helps us out.
So, are we going to hold car manufacturers liable for drunk driving deaths? How about the alcohol manufacturers? How about knife manufacturers for stabbing deaths or kitchen pan manufacturers for bludgeoning deaths? People can find all kinds of illegal uses for legal products. It is time that we hold individuals accountable for their actions and poor behavior. We have become a nation that accepts the shifting of blame.
How about we require liability insurance for each gun and gunner.
Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: August 13, 2019 07:06AM
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As long as both Congress and the Supreme Court protect gun manufacturers from liability when their products are used for violence, I don't think a financial solution is going to work with guns although I love the idea. Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005 that removes liability from manufacturers in most cases. Last week Remington, maker of the weapon used by the Sandy Hook shooter and subject of many lawsuits from those families, asked the Supreme Court to block a Connecticut decision to allow those lawsuits to move forward. That decision is going to be key.
Putting a big tax on guns (like the one on cigarettes) carries an acknowledgement that the product itself is harmful. We've got a ways to go before enough politicians will admit that. We'll see if SCOTUS helps us out.
So, are we going to hold car manufacturers liable for drunk driving deaths? How about the alcohol manufacturers? How about knife manufacturers for stabbing deaths or kitchen pan manufacturers for bludgeoning deaths? People can find all kinds of illegal uses for legal products. It is time that we hold individuals accountable for their actions and poor behavior. We have become a nation that accepts the shifting of blame.
How about we require liability insurance for each gun and gunner.
Home/renter's/umbrella insurance already provide liability coverage, and are relatively inexpensive.
Re: Warren gun plan - wow, I really like it
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: August 14, 2019 02:04PM
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As long as both Congress and the Supreme Court protect gun manufacturers from liability when their products are used for violence, I don't think a financial solution is going to work with guns although I love the idea. Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005 that removes liability from manufacturers in most cases. Last week Remington, maker of the weapon used by the Sandy Hook shooter and subject of many lawsuits from those families, asked the Supreme Court to block a Connecticut decision to allow those lawsuits to move forward. That decision is going to be key.
Putting a big tax on guns (like the one on cigarettes) carries an acknowledgement that the product itself is harmful. We've got a ways to go before enough politicians will admit that. We'll see if SCOTUS helps us out.
So, are we going to hold car manufacturers liable for drunk driving deaths? How about the alcohol manufacturers? How about knife manufacturers for stabbing deaths or kitchen pan manufacturers for bludgeoning deaths? People can find all kinds of illegal uses for legal products. It is time that we hold individuals accountable for their actions and poor behavior. We have become a nation that accepts the shifting of blame.
How about we require liability insurance for each gun and gunner.
Home/renter's/umbrella insurance already provide liability coverage, and are relatively inexpensive.
Uh, does home/renter's/umbrella insurance cover you if you shoot someone?