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William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: Buck
Date: April 09, 2020 11:37AM
[www.washingtontimes.com]


Attorney General William P. Barr Wednesday accused the media of attacking hydroxycholoroquine solely because President Trump has suggested it could treat the coronavirus.
“Before the president said anything about it, there was fair and balanced coverage of this very promising drug and the fact that it had such a long track record, and soon as [President Trump] said something positive about it the media has been on a jihad to discredit this drug,” Mr. Barr said in an interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingharam. “It’s quite strange.”
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: April 09, 2020 11:39AM
.....he....'had'......me at hello.....



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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: April 09, 2020 11:41AM
And his medical credentials are...
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: mattkime
Date: April 09, 2020 11:43AM
Buck - are you familiar with the political side of the forum?



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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: mattkime
Date: April 09, 2020 11:47AM
FWIW its a dumb statement in a dumb article. Completely ignores the consequences of the president's actions. Then again, the administration takes credit fo everything and responsibility for nothing.

Lets see what happens when we allow medical treatment to be politicized. This is going to get ugly in a hurry - and by that I mean that people WILL be hurt.



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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: April 09, 2020 11:49AM
wrong side (in more ways than one)
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: April 09, 2020 11:49AM
Lets' see: our Attorney General is utterly ignorant about the importance of scientific procedure and a crybaby as well.

How F'ing pathetic.
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: Buck
Date: April 09, 2020 11:49AM
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mattkime
Buck - are you familiar with the political side of the forum?

I think you're right. Agreed. This probably needs to move there. I didn't want to hijack DP's thread below, and made a new one.
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: April 09, 2020 12:01PM
Good, now that we are here: Barr is a disgusting, reprehensible Trump stooge.
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 09, 2020 12:28PM
I think the media has questioned the wisdom of Trump’s vigorous endorsement of a drug that has, at best, only semi-anecdotal evidence of success against Covid-19, and potentially serious side effects.

Maybe it’ll work - it’s being studied. But why don’t we wait till we have some good evidence that it works before we encourage people, sick and well, to take it?

There’s an awful lot of mis-information out there regarding this pandemic, and this hasn’t helped.
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: RgrF
Date: April 09, 2020 12:33PM
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: wave rider
Date: April 09, 2020 01:19PM
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pdq


Maybe it’ll work - it’s being studied. But why don’t we wait till we have some good evidence that it works before we encourage people, sick and well, to take it?


Where’s the profit$ in that approach?



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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: davester
Date: April 09, 2020 05:13PM
Barr sure went to shameless sycophant quickly. Also, why would any attorney general feel that they had either the qualifications to assess scientific data or feel justified in pontificating about them?



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: April 09, 2020 07:18PM
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davester
Barr sure went to shameless sycophant quickly. Also, why would any attorney general feel that they had either the qualifications to assess scientific data or feel justified in pontificating about them?

He might feel justified if he had bought a lot of stock in a company poised to reap huge profits on government recommendations of it.



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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: bfd
Date: April 09, 2020 07:47PM
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Re: William Barr: Media on 'jihad' to discredit hydroxychloroquine
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 10, 2020 09:02AM
There a piece today on a small French study that the President had previously noted, when saying that hydroxychloroquine “has a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.”

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The small French study of 20 people found that taking hydroxychloroquine was associated with the "viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients," noting that the effect was "reinforced" with azithromycin, an antibiotic better known as a Z-pack.

Yay!

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[But critics of the study] pointed out that several patients who took the drug, and ended up faring poorly, dropped out of the trial, and their outcomes were not factored into the study's final conclusions
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Fared poorly”? How poorly?

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Three left because they ended up in the intensive care unit, another patient died, and a fifth stopped treatment due to nausea. It turned out the sixth patient didn't actually have coronavirus.

In other words, the only patients that the study’s conclusions were based on were the ones that did well. Of the original 25 who actually had coronavirus, 4% died (ie 1/25) and 12% ended up in ICU. Very small numbers, but basically tracking what we’ve seen in patients not treated with hydroxychloroquine.

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Leaving out the five patients who took the drug and didn't fare well is "cherry picking," said Caplan, the bioethicist.

"That's not science," he said. "You've got your thumb on the scale."
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