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Re: All COVID-19 Discussion GOES HERE
Posted by: bfd
Date: April 19, 2020 04:20PM
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Posted by: space-time
Date: April 21, 2020 05:50PM
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Posted by: Michael
Date: April 22, 2020 12:24PM
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Anti-malarial drug Trump touted is linked to higher rates of death, study says
An anti-malarial drug President Trump has aggressively promoted to treat covid-19 had no benefit and was linked to higher rates of death for Veterans Affairs patients hospitalized with the novel coronavirus, according to a study.
The study by VA and academic researchers analyzed outcomes of 368 male patients nationwide, with 97 receiving hydroxychloroquine, 113 receiving hydroxychloroquine in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin, and 158 not receiving any hydroxychloroquine.
Rates of death in the groups treated with the drugs were worse than those who did not receive the drugs, the study found. Rates of patients on ventilators were roughly equal, with no benefit demonstrated by the drugs.
When asked about the study at the White House briefing on Tuesday, Trump said he was not aware of the study but that he would look into it.
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Posted by: rjmacs
Date: April 22, 2020 12:28PM
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Posted by: Sarcany
Date: April 22, 2020 01:13PM
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Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 23, 2020 06:17AM
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Posted by: pdq
Date: April 23, 2020 09:28AM
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Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: April 23, 2020 11:18AM
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space-time
Anti-malarial drug Trump touted is linked to higher rates of death, study says
An anti-malarial drug President Trump has aggressively promoted to treat covid-19 had no benefit and was linked to higher rates of death for Veterans Affairs patients hospitalized with the novel coronavirus, according to a study.
The study by VA and academic researchers analyzed outcomes of 368 male patients nationwide, with 97 receiving hydroxychloroquine, 113 receiving hydroxychloroquine in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin, and 158 not receiving any hydroxychloroquine.
Rates of death in the groups treated with the drugs were worse than those who did not receive the drugs, the study found. Rates of patients on ventilators were roughly equal, with no benefit demonstrated by the drugs.
When asked about the study at the White House briefing on Tuesday, Trump said he was not aware of the study but that he would look into it.
A problem with this type of retrospective study is that it doesn't take into account that particular patients who received the hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin, might have been viewed by their doctors as being very, very sick and so got the drugs as a last hope for recovery because they were so sick. A greater percentage of those patient dying might reflect just how sick they were when they received the hydrozycholoroquine and not that the drug was ineffective or even more deadly than just supportive treatment.
It's interesting to me that early in their piece they say that, "Hydroxychloroquine, alone or in combination with azithromycin, is being widely used in Covid-19 therapy based on anecdotal and limited observational evidence." and end the article pointing out the importance of double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled studies. But, they present data that is very limited, itself.
Here's the report: [www.medrxiv.org]
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Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: April 23, 2020 11:26AM
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Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 24, 2020 09:13AM
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Lemon Drop
The value of this study is not that it can be used to officially approve or disapprove this treatment officially, it's that it has apparently convinced Trump and others at the WH and on Fox News to stop saying that this is the miracle cure that everybody should try because "what have you got to lose?" ...
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Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: April 28, 2020 12:20PM
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Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 28, 2020 12:51PM
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S. Pupp
The virus does not survive boiling.
I'll send a letter to the Whitehouse that perhaps we should start boiling COVID-19 patients to cure them.
Watch the news - it'll be the next hottest thing coming from the mouth of the Prez himself.
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Posted by: Don C
Date: May 16, 2020 10:12PM
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Posted by: Sarcany
Date: May 16, 2020 10:17PM
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Don C
So Apple and Google have made available the tracking app that notifies someone if their phone has been near a phone of someone who self identifies as having the Virus. The app store has quite a few of these apps. Do these apps work together so that if I make a report on my Apple app then phones running one of the other apps gets the notification? Or does my Apple app notification only go to other Apple app phones?
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Posted by: deckeda
Date: May 18, 2020 10:35PM
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So Apple and Google have made available the tracking app ...
Can you get the virus again?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 23, 2020 07:31AM
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Re: Can you get the virus again?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: May 23, 2020 09:14AM
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Patel also sounded an optimistic note about the other reports of COVID-19 survivors who have retested positive. “I haven’t seen global evidence of reinfection,” she said. It might be a plausible explanation in some cases, she added, “but given how infectious this virus is, I would expect there to be more.”
Revisiting Dentist Thread Since early April
Posted by: SKYLANE
Date: June 04, 2020 05:02PM
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Re: Revisiting Dentis Thread Since early April
Posted by: rgG
Date: June 04, 2020 06:35PM
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SKYLANE
Revisit of [forums.macresource.com]
Now that nearly two months have passed since this thread, anybody have a change in comfort level of going for cleaning at dentist?
I have an appointment next week, and I have an awesome dentist office. However, laying there with my face exposed for a cleaning is not exciting me.
Thoughts? Experiences?
Re: Revisiting Dentis Thread Since early April
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 04, 2020 09:28PM
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Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: June 04, 2020 11:24PM
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Posted by: Sam3
Date: June 05, 2020 03:45AM
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When 511 Epidemiologists Expect to Fly, Hug and Do 18 Other Everyday Activities Again
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 08, 2020 06:47AM
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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 08, 2020 09:39PM
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Posted by: pdq
Date: June 16, 2020 09:31AM
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Generic steroid reduces deaths by one-third among patients with severe covid-19, study says
The drug is the first to improve survival for covid-19-afflicted patients, said Peter Horby, one of the chief investigators for the trial.
“The survival benefit is clear and large in those patients who are sick enough to require oxygen treatment, so dexamethasone should now become standard of care in these patients,” he said in a statement. “Dexamethasone is inexpensive, on the shelf, and can be used immediately to save lives worldwide.”
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Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 16, 2020 10:37AM
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pdq
Some good news:
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Generic steroid reduces deaths by one-third among patients with severe covid-19, study says
The drug is the first to improve survival for covid-19-afflicted patients, said Peter Horby, one of the chief investigators for the trial.
“The survival benefit is clear and large in those patients who are sick enough to require oxygen treatment, so dexamethasone should now become standard of care in these patients,” he said in a statement. “Dexamethasone is inexpensive, on the shelf, and can be used immediately to save lives worldwide.”
Interesting, in that retrospective studies of the “Spanish” flu suggested it wasn’t so much the virus, but the exaggerated immune system response to it that produced much of the sickness and death in that earlier pandemic - perhaps here too.
Also, dexamethasone is cheap and widely available, in contrast to some of the newer drugs like remdesivir.
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Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 16, 2020 02:52PM
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pdq
Some good news:
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Generic steroid reduces deaths by one-third among patients with severe covid-19, study says
The drug is the first to improve survival for covid-19-afflicted patients, said Peter Horby, one of the chief investigators for the trial.
“The survival benefit is clear and large in those patients who are sick enough to require oxygen treatment, so dexamethasone should now become standard of care in these patients,” he said in a statement. “Dexamethasone is inexpensive, on the shelf, and can be used immediately to save lives worldwide.”
Interesting, in that retrospective studies of the “Spanish” flu suggested it wasn’t so much the virus, but the exaggerated immune system response to it that produced much of the sickness and death in that earlier pandemic - perhaps here too.
Also, dexamethasone is cheap and widely available, in contrast to some of the newer drugs like remdesivir.
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Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: June 17, 2020 02:39PM
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Posted by: rjmacs
Date: June 17, 2020 04:05PM
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Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 19, 2020 02:30PM
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Posted by: pdq
Date: June 19, 2020 05:13PM
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A slew of the biggest cities and counties in Arizona and Texas have begun to mandate face masks after their Republican governors — facing mounting pressure — gave their blessing this week.
Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey on Wednesday reversed course to allow mask requirements, while Texas Gov. Greg Abbott clarified the same day to KWTX that local officials could tell businesses to mandate masks without running afoul of his executive order banning civil or criminal penalties for those who do not cover their faces in public.
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Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 20, 2020 12:01PM
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Posted by: Acer
Date: June 25, 2020 05:19PM
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Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 25, 2020 06:39PM
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Posted by: Acer
Date: June 25, 2020 07:01PM
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Posted by: rjmacs
Date: June 26, 2020 11:22AM
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Hum or hold your breath? How to protect against COVID-19 when someone gets too close
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 27, 2020 02:23PM
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Re: Hum or hold your breath? How to protect against COVID-19 when someone gets too close
Posted by: rgG
Date: June 27, 2020 09:46PM
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Speedy
[www.startribune.com]
We know that we can get the coronavirus by breathing in respiratory droplets exhaled, coughed or sneezed by someone with the disease.
So does it help to hold your breath when you pass mask-free strangers on the street, or when you have to share a public bathroom, or crowd into an elevator with other people?
“I’ve done about 750 national and international interviews now" on the COVID-19 pandemic, said Dr. Gregory Poland, a Mayo Clinic professor of medicine and infectious diseases and director of the Mayo Clinic’s vaccine research group. “Nobody has asked me that one.”
But Poland’s response: Why not?
“If you’re not breathing in, you’ve dramatically cut down the risk logically,” he said.
In fact, he said he and his family hold their breath during brief encounters with other people.
“When we’re going by people and you have to be unavoidably close, hold your breath,” he said. “You have reduced the risk of breathing it in at no cost.”
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Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 28, 2020 10:47AM
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Re: Hum or hold your breath? How to protect against COVID-19 when someone gets too close
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: June 28, 2020 02:10PM
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Re: Hum or hold your breath? How to protect against COVID-19 when someone gets too close
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 28, 2020 04:11PM
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Re: Hum or hold your breath? How to protect against COVID-19 when someone gets too close
Posted by: Sam3
Date: June 29, 2020 03:33AM
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rjmacs
Do they not appreciate that we have to breathe in their exhalations, whether we're near them or not? Keep your mask ON, please.
Show me a case where someone was infected from a jogger passing by at least 6 feet away.
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But where are people contracting the infection in the community? I regularly hear people worrying about grocery stores, bike rides, inconsiderate runners who are not wearing masks.... are these places of concern? Well, not really.
Re: Hum or hold your breath? How to protect against COVID-19 when someone gets too close
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 29, 2020 08:58AM
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Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 30, 2020 02:46PM
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Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 30, 2020 03:10PM
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4th of July - 2020
Posted by: RgrF
Date: June 30, 2020 09:05PM
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Posted by: pdq
Date: July 10, 2020 09:22AM
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Posted by: Speedy
Date: July 10, 2020 04:02PM
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Posted by: pdq
Date: July 11, 2020 11:24AM
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“One of the things that was heart wrenching that he said to his nurse was, you know, I think I made a mistake.“
... “He didn’t really believe. He thought the disease was a hoax. He thought he was young and he was invincible and wouldn’t get affected by the disease,” Dr. Appleby said.
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Posted by: deckeda
Date: July 11, 2020 10:11PM
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