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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 10:18AM |
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pdq
The latest focus-group-tested, PR-approved scare term from the right.
Period.
This. Add it to the list of Orange Dump Orwellian doublespeak, along with "fake news", "alternative facts", and "it's under control".
Freya says, 'Hello from NOLA, baby!' (Laissez bon temps rouler!)
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 10:24AM |
Following up on pdq's post, Damnatio Memoriae
Picasso in his studio after the liberation of Paris, taken by my friend and mentor.
Picasso in his studio after the liberation of Paris, taken by my friend and mentor.
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 10:35AM |
It's what people complain about when they're caught doing something morally questionable or outright illegal and are expected to face genuine consequences.
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 03:33PM |
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mrbigstuff
Do two wrongs make a right?
No, but three rights make a left.
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 03:41PM |
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Lemon Drop
Can you name someone who was "cancelled" who should not have been?
Al Franken.
He threw himself under the bus to avoid making a stink.
Yeah, he did some bad things as a comedian... Seems to have pushed right up to the edge, but didn't run over it. And he gave the best apology I've ever seen from a politician:
[www.cnn.com]
"The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.
"I respect women. I don't respect men who don't. And the fact that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me feel ashamed.
"But I want to say something else, too. Over the last few months, all of us—including and especially men who respect women—have been forced to take a good, hard look at our own actions and think (perhaps, shamefully, for the first time) about how those actions have affected women.
"For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.
"Coming from the world of comedy, I've told and written a lot of jokes that I once thought were funny but later came to realize were just plain offensive. But the intentions behind my actions aren't the point at all. It's the impact these jokes had on others that matters. And I'm sorry it's taken me so long to come to terms with that.
"While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women's experiences.
"I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.
"And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them."
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 04:26PM |
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...nothing done to him can be unfair?
Really? Unfair is suddenly an issue?
Picasso in his studio after the liberation of Paris, taken by my friend and mentor.
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 04:38PM |
I’m surprised that no one’s brought up this one:
OMG! Cancelled by the Trump administration?
As noted in the piece, here’s where it gets really weird:
Ah, ooKay. Rather than being “cancelled”, she was well on her way to becoming a right-wing star/martyr.
Then it sorta fell apart, spectacularly:
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On Monday a political appointee and deputy White House liaison there, Merritt Corrigan, took to Twitter to accuse her employer of “anti-Christian” bias.
Corrigan’s appointment at USAID has been under fire for months over anti-gay tweets she made in 2019 and 2020, including accusing the United States of being a “homo-empire” devoted to a “tyrannical LGBT agenda,” tweeting that “female empowerment is a civilizational calamity,” and advocating for the creation of a “Christian patriarchy.” But on Monday, her targets were both USAID itself and House Foreign Relations Affairs Committee Chair Eliot Engel (D-NY), whom she accused of soliciting prostitutes. As Corrigan’s initial tweets went up, she claimed USAID gave her a 3 p.m. deadline to resign or be fired. When the deadline passed, Corrigan said she was fired.
OMG! Cancelled by the Trump administration?
As noted in the piece, here’s where it gets really weird:
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Corrigan, who is/was apparently dating [famous right-wing bomb-thrower Jacob] Wohl, announced that she’d be appearing Thursday in front of Wohl associate Jack Burkman’s Northern Virginia house—a site that has previously hosted farcical attempts to smear Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Kamala Harris (D-CA) with lurid sexual allegations. There, she would further denounce USAID, accuse a Politico reporter who covered her resignation of stalking her, and demand that Engel debate her and Burkman.
Ah, ooKay. Rather than being “cancelled”, she was well on her way to becoming a right-wing star/martyr.
Then it sorta fell apart, spectacularly:
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[Tuesday, ] Corrigan now claimed she’d become the pawn of individuals who had attempted to “ruin” her.
"I would like to apologize,” it read. “Especially to the people who have been affected or hurt by the messages sent from my Twitter account, and the claims made in my name over the past 24 hours. I did NOT send these messages, and while I vehemently protested about them being sent in my name, my devices were not in my control. I see now that I was part of an abusive scheme and I was used to attack people that have nothing to do with me.
“I will not be participating in any press conferences as claimed in my name, and will have nothing to do with individuals who forced me to hand over my devices so they could control me and the output in my name...
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 07:14PM |
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Sarcany
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Can you name someone who was "cancelled" who should not have been?
Al Franken.
He threw himself under the bus to avoid making a stink.
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Good example on the face of it - and although I don't want to rehash l'affaire Franken, it wasn't his antics as a comedian that convinced me he should resign, it was the other 7 accusations of sexual misconduct.
I'm fine rehashing it.
The whole thing was an absurd pile-on.
His "antics" were the only accusations that were substantiated, and it turns out that there were witnesses exonerating him for every allegation about his behavior on the tour, leaving just the photo.
Two of the seven accusers said what amounted to: "I asked him to pose with me in exactly that way, but didn't like it when the weird old guy actually did exactly what I asked him to do."
One of the statements amounted to "he gave me a friendly and inoffensive kiss on the cheek, but I thought he was going to give me a gross open-mouth kiss on the lips."
This is the accusation that finally led to his resignation:
"...the group’s resolve hardened further when some of its members learned of an impending Politico story that contained a seventh allegation, by a former Senate staff member. The accuser, whose name is being withheld at her request, was known to some of the seven female senators. The woman said that, in 2006, when Franken was still a comedian, he had made her uneasy by looking as if he planned to kiss her. "
Yep. Most of the accusations were that the awful little man made women scared that he *might* behave inappropriately.
There was never an ethics investigation and he resigned before most of the exonerating facts got out to the public.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2020 07:17PM by Sarcany.
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 08:30PM |
The Politico story was discredited. It took quotes out of context.
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Re: What is "cancel culture?" Date: August 05, 2020 11:41PM |
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Some defenestrations are brilliant, and long overdue. Weinstein’s removal from a position of power was undoubtedly a good thing. But the firing of Emmanuel Cafferty was not. For activists, the danger lies in the cheap sugar rush of tokenistic cancellations. Real institutional change is hard; like politics, it is the “slow boring of hard boards.” Persuading a company to toss someone overboard for PR points risks a victory that is no victory at all. The pitchforks go down, but the corporate culture remains the same. The survivors sigh in relief. The institution goes on.
If you care about progressive causes, then woke capitalism is not your friend. It is actively impeding the cause, siphoning off energy, and deluding us into thinking that change is happening faster and deeper than it really is. When people talk about the “excesses of the left”—a phenomenon that blights the electoral prospects of progressive parties by alienating swing voters—in many cases they’re talking about the jumpy overreactions of corporations that aren’t left-wing at all.
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