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Good news - we’re not as screwed as the UK
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 13, 2020 10:58AM
Another shining example of modern conservatism worth noting is Boris Johnson’s Britain:

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Alongside huge job losses announced a day earlier, Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Britain now finds itself with the worst economy and highest number of excess deaths from the novel coronavirus in Europe.

... Britain was slower than many E.U. countries to go into lockdown and slower to come out. In mid-March, bars, restaurants and other “nonessential shops” were closed, and the government did not start lifting restrictions until June.

... “The recession brought on by the coronavirus pandemic has led to the biggest fall in quarterly GDP on record,” said Jonathan Athow, ONS deputy national statistician.

...[Chancellor of the Exchequer] Sunak warned of further job losses, even without a second wave of coronavirus infections. A government program that was paying up to 80 percent of a furloughed worker’s salary is set to expire in October. Sunak said continued high-level government job support was not sustainable.

Well, helping those laid-off people just makes them lazy. They also need to get ready for Brexit, which kicks in at the end of this year.

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Six months ago, Prime Minister Boris Johnson celebrated Brexit by describing Britain as the Superman of global trade.

Now, the country risks becoming an also-ran, losing its easy access to the huge EU common market, unable to strike a groundbreaking deal with the United States and on the brink of a trade fight with China.

In all, 92% of the UK’s trade deals with other countries, which were going to be renegotiated and vastly improved by Johnson and company, have come to naught. Sound like any other leader you know?

Maybe they shouldn’t have let Boris into the hospital this past April after all.
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Re: Good news - we’re not as screwed as the UK
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 13, 2020 11:13AM
Glad Bojo recovered and is well. I hear he's making a push to address epidemic obesity in Britain and trying to drop some weight himself.

I just hope they don't use this as an excuse to abolish the NHS. Because despite their government's slow response to the pandemic, at least Brits all have health coverage they can afford.
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Re: Good news - we’re not as screwed as the UK
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: August 13, 2020 12:03PM
The Brits love the NHS and would not allow their government to harm a hair on its head.
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Re: Good news - we’re not as screwed as the UK
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 13, 2020 12:19PM
“Excess” deaths??? huh smiley

“Sorry, you’re over your limit. You’ll have to resurrect some of them.”
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Re: Good news - we’re not as screwed as the UK
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 13, 2020 12:45PM
Excess deaths are typically defined as the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time periods and expected numbers of deaths in the same time periods.

[www.cdc.gov]
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Re: Good news - we’re not as screwed as the UK
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 13, 2020 12:51PM
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Ca Bob
The Brits love the NHS and would not allow their government to harm a hair on its head.

The NHS is beloved but under stress. Austerity measures in the UK have negatively impacted the NHS, which is significantly less well funded than healthcare systems in Germany, France or Sweden, and slightly less-well funded than the EU average. Conservative UK governments have not spent enough for the service to keep up with an aging British population.

Still, I'd take it!
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Re: Good news - we’re not as screwed as the UK
Posted by: davester
Date: August 13, 2020 01:36PM
Not a chance that the NHS would ever be abolished. There'd be rioting in the streets if any politician tried anything even remotely leaning that way. I think this is why the Republicans are so afraid of "Medicare-for-all". This would basically be an American NHS and they fear that once it was enacted the public would come to their senses and there would be no way to ever get rid of it.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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