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GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 22, 2020 06:26PM
...six of then from the same family.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: rgG
Date: August 22, 2020 06:37PM
barf smiley





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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: August 22, 2020 06:37PM
Sad!

When 6 of the half of the speakers are you or your family...



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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: August 22, 2020 06:49PM
Trump is speaking every night. That should be a lot of raw material for the Lincoln Project to go nuts with.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 22, 2020 06:51PM
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RgrF
. GOP Convention - 12 speakers...

...and 8 of them will be Donald Trump.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 22, 2020 06:57PM
There's one person on that panel I do admire and it's Senator Tim Scott. Certainly don't agree with all of his policy positions, but he's a man of character an integrity, self-made, the real deal.
The rest of that...pass.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: PeterB
Date: August 22, 2020 07:04PM
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Markintosh
Sad!

When 6 of the half of the speakers are you or your family...

That's what I noticed too. The ultimate nepotism and narcissism... when you have to get your family members out in front of the whole country to prove how great a guy you are. ROTFL




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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 22, 2020 07:07PM
Yup, featuring 50% of all the Black Republican members of Congress.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 22, 2020 07:11PM
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Lemon Drop
There's one person on that panel I do admire and it's Senator Tim Scott. Certainly don't agree with all of his policy positions, but he's a man of character an integrity, self-made, the real deal.
The rest of that...pass.

Maybe selective approbation on your part? Why would a man of character endorse a man with no integrity and of corrupt character?
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 22, 2020 07:33PM
I wonder who was asked and declined?



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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: neophyte
Date: August 22, 2020 07:44PM
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Lemon Drop
There's one person on that panel I do admire and it's Senator Tim Scott. Certainly don't agree with all of his policy positions, but he's a man of character an integrity, self-made, the real deal.
The rest of that...pass.

I disagree. He and I exchanged emails after his very vocal support of Betsy DeVos for Sec of Education.

In part, he wrote:

"...she believes that parents should have the
ability to pick a better, safer school for their children, whether
that school be public, private, or charter..."

I replied:

Parents already HAVE that choice. What you fail to mention is Ms Devos
aim to take MY tax money to pay for someone else's child's PRIVATE
education. This would reduce available tax funding for public schools,
leaving those parents who have insufficient funds to pay for private
schooling for their own children stuck with an underfunded school.
Thus, the poor will suffer while the rich get the government to help
pay their way. Is this the real goal of the Republican party?"

He further wrote:
"However, despite tripling federal investments in K-12
education since 1965 and increasing involvement from the Department of
Education, substantial achievement gaps persist..."

I responded:
"Apparently you believe that REDUCING federal investment in K-12 education by funneling those funds to private schools will close those achievement gaps. Really?"

I received no further response.

I have no admiration for anyone who embraces an idea which is designed to ensure the continued repression of anyone, whether it be economic, educational, or opportunity.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 22, 2020 07:57PM
He further wrote:
"However, despite tripling federal investments in K-12
education since 1965 and increasing involvement from the Department of
Education, substantial achievement gaps persist..."


The classic Republican response. Zero logic to it, especially with just an ounce of questioning.

Spending money on public edu = bad, spending money on private edu = good. Lack of oversight or accreditation is no problem so long as someone is allowed to make money.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: sekker
Date: August 22, 2020 08:04PM
Senator Scott would have earned my support if he had followed his conscience and voted to impeach 45.

He is now enabling the worst cancer our country has ever had in the White House.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 22, 2020 08:13PM
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neophyte


I have no admiration for anyone who embraces an idea which is designed to ensure the continued repression of anyone, whether it be economic, educational, or opportunity.

I guess you mean his support for charter schools. Well, the report card on charter schools in South Carolina is decidedly mixed. A Stanford study in 2019 said they taught reading to poor and minority students better than traditional public schools, but were less strong in math. I would rather see adequate funding of all K-12 schools but I understand why communities with long histories of poor schools go looking for other options.

Tim Scott was raised by a poor and very hard working single mom, in an area with some of the lowest performing public schools in the United States. The high school he attended, R B Stall in North Charleston, is one of the lowest ranked high schools in South Carolina, a state already at the bottom of educational rankings.

I can't blame the guy for looking at public education in the low country of South Carolina and going, we've got to do better than this. He may not have the right answers but at least he wants to do something about it which is more than I can say for a lot of the SC politicians.

Like him or not, I'm glad that Tim Scott is in the Senate. Would I prefer a Democrat? Well of course. I'm working to get Jaime Harrison elected. But a black man raised poor in the low country is now speaking truth to power on racial justice issues to people like Mitch McConnell. It's a thing to see.
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Posted by: Ted King
Date: August 22, 2020 08:17PM
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deckeda

Spending money on public edu = bad, spending money on private edu = good. Lack of oversight or accreditation is no problem so long as someone is allowed to make money.

The DeVos syndicate's motto.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 22, 2020 08:27PM
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sekker
Senator Scott would have earned my support if he had followed his conscience and voted to impeach 45.

He is now enabling the worst cancer our country has ever had in the White House.

"We talked about the fact that there is a constructive way to have a dialogue with a nation... the President will listen, if you engage him with the facts of the issue" RollingEyesSmiley5
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: GGD
Date: August 22, 2020 08:48PM
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RgrF
...six of then from the same family.

Where's Fauci? They need someone who speaks the truth.

Maybe MSNBC can have him on and get bigger ratings than 45.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: neophyte
Date: August 22, 2020 09:38PM
Scott wouldn't be at any federal level today were it not for Nikki Haley appointing him Senator to replace retiring Jim DeMint in 2012.

His main support is from Evangelical Christians. He supports off-shore oil drilling, which is mostly unpopular with the people along the SC coast, and receives campaign funding from oil and gas interests.

He has spoken "truth to power" at least 3 times according to Wiki, but the individual in power does not change, rather he just listens as though putting up with an annoying interruption to his golf game.

He used to be on two committees: the Committee on Transportation and the Committee on Small Business. Maybe he could have had some influence within them for the benefit of the people he represents. But he resigned them when he became a member of the Committee on Rules. I am not sure how that membership will have any effect on his constituents. It almost seems he is just a token for the Republican Party.

Not one of Scott's policies in any way was meant to help anyone other than the already rich. And now he is going to publicly speak in support of the guy to whom he spoke "truth to power"?

Maybe he will surprise us and actually speak against the president.

And then again, maybe pigs will fly in SC.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: August 22, 2020 09:40PM
All I need to know is that Senator Scott voted Not Guilty on the impeachment. I put his personal allocation of unnecessary dead so far is about 600 souls.



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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: August 22, 2020 10:53PM
Apparently Barron Trump has a soccer game or something next week...



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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: samintx
Date: August 23, 2020 08:25AM
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Markintosh
Apparently Barron Trump has a soccer game or something next week...

goodone
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 23, 2020 08:32AM
That thread where Lemon Drop sounded like a Tim Scott fan.

I did have some wine last night but not that much.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 23, 2020 09:40AM
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Lemon Drop
That thread where Lemon Drop sounded like a Tim Scott fan.

I did have some wine last night but not that much.

???
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Ted King
Date: August 23, 2020 10:24AM
Good comment I saw:

"Pop quiz: How many RNC key speakers are banned from running charities?"
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 23, 2020 10:42AM
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Ted King
Good comment I saw:

"Pop quiz: How many RNC key speakers are banned from running charities?"

Ha, perfect.

Just reading that two of the producers of the RNC convention are Trump associates who produced "The Apprentice" and Miss USA/Miss Universe. Is he going to fire or crown somebody each night? No matter what, it's going to be all about HIM.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 23, 2020 11:18AM
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Lemon Drop
That thread where Lemon Drop sounded like a Tim Scott fan.

I did have some wine last night but not that much.

Sounded like you were trying to be generous.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: neophyte
Date: August 23, 2020 11:35AM
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Lemon Drop
That thread where Lemon Drop sounded like a Tim Scott fan.

I did have some wine last night but not that much.

Everyone has an oops moment. It does not diminish in any way my admiration for your thoughtful contributions and humane outlook on the many issues you address here.

I forgive you completely.
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 23, 2020 12:23PM
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neophyte
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Lemon Drop
That thread where Lemon Drop sounded like a Tim Scott fan.

I did have some wine last night but not that much.

Everyone has an oops moment. It does not diminish in any way my admiration for your thoughtful contributions and humane outlook on the many issues you address here.

I forgive you completely.


Aww shucks, thank you. smiling smiley
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Re: GOP Convention - 12 speakers...
Posted by: davester
Date: August 23, 2020 07:27PM
Where's Jared?



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