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FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: AllGold
Date: October 13, 2020 04:10PM
I just saw that the Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) vaccine trial is now paused because of "an illness" in one of the volunteers. AstraZeneca's trial was paused in early September and hasn't been restarted in the U.S., although it has been resumed in the U.K. and Brazil.

The FML part (F. My Life) is because I signed up for the AstraZeneca trial a few days before it was paused. Just yesterday I was able to sign up for the Janssen trial. banghead smiley



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Re: FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: October 13, 2020 04:16PM
All part of the process.
hail smiley And thank you for willingly taking one for humanity. hail smiley
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Re: FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: mattkime
Date: October 13, 2020 04:23PM
What cbelt3 said.



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Re: FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: October 13, 2020 05:56PM
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cbelt3
All part of the process.
hail smiley And thank you for willingly taking one for humanity. hail smiley

It's normal for these things to pause many times. It's actually a sign that the process is going somewhat normally.

If any vaccine maker hasn't "paused" at least a half dozen times before announcing a vaccine even as an emergency measure for first-responders, they're selling snake oil.



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Re: FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: AllGold
Date: October 13, 2020 06:00PM
The mRNA vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) haven't paused as far as I know.



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Re: FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: October 13, 2020 06:04PM
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AllGold
The mRNA vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) haven't paused as far as I know.

My guess is that Pfizer won't pause. And they'll ship something before the election. And it won't be a working vaccine.



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Re: FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: October 13, 2020 06:13PM
It hardly matters politically whether Pfizer or somebody else submits a vaccine before the election. Probably half or more of the voters will have mailed/submitted their ballots before then, and most of the rest of us have long since made up our minds. Besides, I certainly don't give Trump credit for the creation of a vaccine. He has, if anything, interfered with vaccine development and research as much as he has cheered it on; he didn't pick up a pipet or propose a methodology. The fact that Trump likes to ask for credit for all good things (the economy kept going up following the Obama presidency) doesn't mean he deserves any credit.



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Re: FML: another vaccine phase 3 trial paused
Posted by: AllGold
Date: October 13, 2020 06:23PM
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Sarcany
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AllGold
The mRNA vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) haven't paused as far as I know.

My guess is that Pfizer won't pause. And they'll ship something before the election. And it won't be a working vaccine.

Yeah, not hearing good things about Pfizer's ethics, but regardless, I chose not to participate in the mRNA trials because I don't want to be quite that much of a guinea pig (with a method that has never been successful before).

I do have a friend who is in the Moderna trial.



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