Will he have some self control and try to be presidential? ——

I don't think so but will probably tune in to watch.

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yes

he will be quiet for those two min segments, then he will not shut up

he's not constantly interrupting because he can't contain himself. It's his plan.

Someone will have to get back to me on that, as you could not pay me to watch.

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Tonight is why Netflix was started. (besides, I already voted)

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yes

he will be quiet for those two min segments, then he will not shut up

he's not constantly interrupting because he can't contain himself. It's his plan.

I disagree. I think he is unable to contain himself.

It’s part of what he is.

I'm watching. I am a big fan of American history. This promises to be some of the worst moments ever. I want to witness it.

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yes

he will be quiet for those two min segments, then he will not shut up

he's not constantly interrupting because he can't contain himself. It's his plan.

I disagree. I think he is unable to contain himself.

It’s part of what he is.

frankly, I'm dying to learn the answer to this question... I think the last debate was a show of "STRENGTH" (in Trump's mind). He used his superior bluster to knock Biden off his game thereby showing everyone how powerful he is. It was a show, but I hope I'm wrong and we see an image of Biden on the left and Trump on the right; Biden talking calmly while speaking to the camera and Trump red-faced, gesticulating wildly in silence.

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I'm watching. I am a big fan of American history. This promises to be some of the worst moments ever. I want to witness it.

I agree and think what we will be witnessing tonight could end up being both the very best and very worst of American history.

Unfortunately, I don't think OD can contain himself, which means it'll likely be a repeat of the first debate -- I don't think the mic being off will prevent him from making himself heard or noticed in some fashion. In his mind, the way to "win" is to yell and scream and drown out his opponent-- basically the quintessential loudmouth bully--, which is why it's very telling that he's already said he hates the new debate rules... so expect him to break the rules in whatever fashion, he doesn't think they apply to him.

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I'm watching. I am a big fan of American history. This promises to be some of the worst moments ever. I want to witness it.

I agree and think what we will be witnessing tonight could end up being both the very best and very worst of American history.

Unfortunately, I don't think OD can contain himself, which means it'll likely be a repeat of the first debate -- I don't think the mic being off will prevent him from making himself heard or noticed in some fashion. In his mind, the way to "win" is to yell and scream and drown out his opponent-- basically the quintessential loudmouth bully--, which is why it's very telling that he's already said he hates the new debate rules... so expect him to break the rules in whatever fashion, he doesn't think they apply to him.

DAMMIT! I'm going to have to actually watch... at least the first 2min quiet segment just to see how this plays out... I'll wait for the Sarah Cooper version to watch the whole thing...


[edit: here's a little opine from the AZ Republic - an interesting take]

It's a huge mistake to mute Donald Trump's debate mic
Opinion: The president wants to play the martyr. This plays into his hands.

Donald Trump is the most powerful person in the free world, but what he does best, and what he seems to enjoy most, is playing the victim.

He has more authority and gets more public exposure than anyone. He has the biggest public megaphone. He has the unquestioned backing of the Republican Party and all the big money behind it. And yet he continually paints himself as the injured party, the oppressed, the martyr.

The Commission on Presidential Debates has tried to run civilized discussions between Trump and Joe Biden. Something befitting the world’s premier democratic republic. But Trump really likes yelling and interrupting. Which causes anyone trying to have a conversation with him to yell and interrupt.

So the commission decided that Trump and Biden will have their microphones muted during portions of the Oct. 22 presidential debate.

Debate commission co-chair Frank Fahrenkopf told CNN's Wolf Blitzer, "There's no question that the first debate was a disappointment for everybody, I think particularly for the American people. We, as a commission, knew we couldn't change rules without the consent of both (campaigns), but saying to the candidates that what's going to happen is when the moderator asks candidate number one to begin their two minutes to talk uninterrupted, the candidate's mic will not be live. When those two minutes are up, it is then candidate B's chance to talk."

I’d guess that whenever Trump’s mic is muted he’ll either try to yell louder or he’ll roll his eyes or throw up his hands in a way that will be just as disruptive as his interruptions.

For him, it’s a win-win.

For the commission, it’s a mistake.

Let Trump yell and interrupt.

Let the rest of us decide if that’s what we want in a president.



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I'm watching. I am a big fan of American history. This promises to be some of the worst moments ever. I want to witness it.

I agree and think what we will be witnessing tonight could end up being both the very best and very worst of American history.

Unfortunately, I don't think OD can contain himself, which means it'll likely be a repeat of the first debate -- I don't think the mic being off will prevent him from making himself heard or noticed in some fashion. In his mind, the way to "win" is to yell and scream and drown out his opponent-- basically the quintessential loudmouth bully--, which is why it's very telling that he's already said he hates the new debate rules... so expect him to break the rules in whatever fashion, he doesn't think they apply to him.

DAMMIT! I'm going to have to actually watch... at least the first 2min quiet segment just to see how this plays out... I'll wait for the Sarah Cooper version to watch the whole thing...


[edit: here's a little opine from the AZ Republic - an interesting take]

It's a huge mistake to mute Donald Trump's debate mic
Opinion: The president wants to play the martyr. This plays into his hands.

Donald Trump is the most powerful person in the free world, but what he does best, and what he seems to enjoy most, is playing the victim.

He has more authority and gets more public exposure than anyone. He has the biggest public megaphone. He has the unquestioned backing of the Republican Party and all the big money behind it. And yet he continually paints himself as the injured party, the oppressed, the martyr.

The Commission on Presidential Debates has tried to run civilized discussions between Trump and Joe Biden. Something befitting the world’s premier democratic republic. But Trump really likes yelling and interrupting. Which causes anyone trying to have a conversation with him to yell and interrupt.

So the commission decided that Trump and Biden will have their microphones muted during portions of the Oct. 22 presidential debate.

Debate commission co-chair Frank Fahrenkopf told CNN's Wolf Blitzer, "There's no question that the first debate was a disappointment for everybody, I think particularly for the American people. We, as a commission, knew we couldn't change rules without the consent of both (campaigns), but saying to the candidates that what's going to happen is when the moderator asks candidate number one to begin their two minutes to talk uninterrupted, the candidate's mic will not be live. When those two minutes are up, it is then candidate B's chance to talk."

I’d guess that whenever Trump’s mic is muted he’ll either try to yell louder or he’ll roll his eyes or throw up his hands in a way that will be just as disruptive as his interruptions.

For him, it’s a win-win.

For the commission, it’s a mistake.

Let Trump yell and interrupt.

Let the rest of us decide if that’s what we want in a president.

Yup, I pretty much agree with their assessment... in a certain way, things have been set up tonight to become a broiler or bloodbath ... trying to set rules with a bully (and expecting him to follow them) is like trying to bargain or negotiate with the Sun. You won't get anywhere, and you'll come away burned.

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DAMMIT! I'm going to have to actually watch... at least the first 2min quiet segment just to see how this plays out... I'll wait for the Sarah Cooper version to watch the whole thing...

Sarah on Leslie

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DAMMIT! I'm going to have to actually watch... at least the first 2min quiet segment just to see how this plays out... I'll wait for the Sarah Cooper version to watch the whole thing...

Sarah on Leslie

I follow her too...

Trump is dragging out the last stooge in the Hunter Fake-O

Tony Bobulinski, the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, which was part of a partnership between the Chinese firm CEFC China Energy and the Biden family, went public with a statement about Hunter Biden’s corruption on Thursday morning. He claimed that then-Vice President Joe Biden had indeed coordinated with his son Hunter in notorious foreign business deals, contrary to Biden’s claims. On Thursday afternoon, Bobulinski announced he would turn over electronic devices and records of business dealings to the FBI.

“Tony Bobulinski will announce that he will turn his electronic devices and records of business dealings with Hunter and Jim Biden over to the FBI,” Fox News Chief White House Correspondent John Roberts announced on Twitter.

Foxnews.com is wall to wall Hunter Biden today

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Foxnews.com is wall to wall Hunter Biden today

The worst example of projection. OD himself is guilty of terrible nepotism, as we all know... Biden could easily go after OD's horrid family, but I think that would be a mistake EXCEPT insofar as that some of OD's family have been involved in foreign policy and the corona response, and therefore are fair game.

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per Rick Gates..45s' performance tonight is gonna be "a monkey throwing poop everywhere."

Goodie!

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per Rick Gates..45s' performance tonight is gonna be "a monkey throwing poop everywhere."

Goodie!

Hey, at least the poop will be orange.

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Wonder if the dRumpsters will be maskless.

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