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“Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: deckeda
Date: November 13, 2020 06:14AM
I may have edited the headline slightly. [www.washingtonpost.com]

Here’s what we know. Famous Covid-denier took multiple rapid tests, questions the results he doesn’t like.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: November 13, 2020 06:25AM
Medical experts have long warned that such rapid-fire tests are not as reliable as polymerase chain reaction, or PCR tests, which must be processed in a laboratory. A White House strategy relying on the accuracy of rapid antigen tests has led to multiple outbreaks in the executive branch.

...But it has many times more false-negatives than false positives so he's probably got COVID.

What should come next is a PCR test, and apparently he's not a complete idiot because that's what he's doing.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2020 06:26AM by Sarcany.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: deckeda
Date: November 13, 2020 06:39AM
Past behaviors being indicators of future performance ...

It’s not a stretch to assume he didn’t want to wait, decided to vent his frustration due to his willingness to be a moron, then finally gave in to the PCR when it was finally explained to him for the 10th time that yes, there actually IS a more reliable test, and we’ll do that next.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: November 13, 2020 07:27AM
Hey, Musk is a billionaire.

This must mean that he is smart.

This means that he is right.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: Marc Anthony
Date: November 13, 2020 07:38AM
In addition to the rapid test not being particularly accurate from the get-go, it's also subject to biotin interference, so—if you're taking any kind of high-dose B or multi-vitamin supplement—it's going to result in even more false outcomes. Symptomatic persons shouldn't begin with rapid testing.



Le poète doit vivre beaucoup, vivre dans tous les sens. - Verlaine
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 13, 2020 08:08AM
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Sarcany
Medical experts have long warned that such rapid-fire tests are not as reliable as polymerase chain reaction, or PCR tests, which must be processed in a laboratory. A White House strategy relying on the accuracy of rapid antigen tests has led to multiple outbreaks in the executive branch.

...But it has many times more false-negatives than false positives so he's probably got COVID.

My daughter told me that the rapid tests may have a 50% false negative rate, which is exactly what Musk is describing.

He may find it “extremely bogus”; I see it as the best we can do at this time.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 13, 2020 09:14AM
Well, maybe he can make a better test. But I doubt it.

He may be a rocket scientist, but he’s an idiot when it comes to life science.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: November 13, 2020 09:41AM
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sekker
He may be a rocket scientist

He hires and pays rocket scientists.

He is not.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: November 13, 2020 11:15AM
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Lux Interior
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sekker
He may be a rocket scientist

He hires and pays rocket scientists.

He is not.

ftw smiley
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 13, 2020 12:26PM
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Lux Interior
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sekker
He may be a rocket scientist

He hires and pays rocket scientists.

He is not.

Semantics, he personally knows a lot of material science etc. If you want to define rocket science as more than that, and you are a rocket scientist, I support you all the way.

I am a life scientist, we do research that is used to make novel diagnostics. Musk does not have anything related to life science or even a basic understanding of DNA science, or the science of diagnostics. He is certainly not an epidemiologist- I am not one, either, but even I can make that statement about Musk with certainty.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: hal
Date: November 13, 2020 01:03PM
I've known lots of very smart people who are absolute morons - it's not that rare.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: November 13, 2020 01:10PM
....man....that's.....cold.....



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I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: bfd
Date: November 13, 2020 02:14PM
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hal
I've known lots of very smart people who are absolute morons - it's not that rare.

Musk exhibits a classic "Spectrum" kind of personality. So that suggests that he may have keen knowledge in some finite areas. Overall, though? Probably not so much. Publicly, he's said and done some fairly dumb things.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: Janit
Date: November 13, 2020 02:39PM
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hal
I've known lots of very smart people who are absolute morons - it's not that rare.

The problem with too many smart people is that they think expertise in one narrow field qualifies them as experts in everything.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: deckeda
Date: November 13, 2020 07:17PM
^^ bingo
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 13, 2020 09:57PM
This was Steve Jobs too. Brilliant man in many areas, but not biology. If Jobs had turned to medical science sooner, instead of embracing hokey medicine in the beginning, to treat his cancer, he may have still been around and creating the next big thing(s).
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: November 14, 2020 12:03AM
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sekker
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Lux Interior
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sekker
He may be a rocket scientist

He hires and pays rocket scientists.

He is not.

Semantics, he personally knows a lot of material science etc. If you want to define rocket science as more than that, and you are a rocket scientist, I support you all the way.

I am a life scientist, we do research that is used to make novel diagnostics. Musk does not have anything related to life science or even a basic understanding of DNA science, or the science of diagnostics. He is certainly not an epidemiologist- I am not one, either, but even I can make that statement about Musk with certainty.

Dupe post



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/14/2020 12:05AM by mrbigstuff.
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Re: “Moron, with cold symptoms, says his covid-19 tests are inconclusive: ‘Something extremely bogus is going on’ “
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: November 14, 2020 12:05AM
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sekker
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Lux Interior
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sekker
He may be a rocket scientist

He hires and pays rocket scientists.

He is not.

Semantics, he personally knows a lot of material science etc. If you want to define rocket science as more than that, and you are a rocket scientist, I support you all the way.

I am a life scientist, we do research that is used to make novel diagnostics. Musk does not have anything related to life science or even a basic understanding of DNA science, or the science of diagnostics. He is certainly not an epidemiologist- I am not one, either, but even I can make that statement about Musk with certainty.

If memory serves me, Lux is not just the deceased singer in an iconic punk performance band, I think he's also a physics honcho. No?
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