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What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: December 02, 2020 11:27AM
Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs
[thehill.com]

The Department of Transportation (DOT) on Wednesday issued a final rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs.

Under the rule, a service animal is defined as a dog “that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of a qualified individual with a disability, including a physical, sensory, psychiatric, intellectual, or other mental disability.”

In addition, “carriers are not required to recognize emotional support animals as service animals and may treat them as pets,” though "psychiatric service animals" will be treated as service animals.

Airlines can require passengers to submit forms attesting to a service animal’s health, behavior and training within 48 hours in advance of the date of travel under the regulation. However, they cannot require passengers traveling with a service animal to check-in physically as opposed checking-in online.

The rule also allows airlines to require that service animals be harnessed, leashed, or tethered at all times during the flight, and can refuse transportation to service animals that exhibit aggressive behavior or pose a threat.

The rule will take effect in 30 days.
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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: December 02, 2020 11:39AM
"I must admit there have been a handful of ugly scenes involving people making eye contact with my emotional support baboon."
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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: December 02, 2020 12:23PM
.....Lorenzo.....Llama.....s.....??



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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: GGD
Date: December 02, 2020 12:27PM
I wonder if the airlines will oppose this now, given that they need every paying passenger they can get.

BTW: Do then enforce the mask rule for the animals too?
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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: December 02, 2020 12:58PM
.....so there will be less 'cougars' boarding planes........??


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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: numbered
Date: December 02, 2020 01:00PM
My experience on flights was that the emotional support types bringing on weird animals was a small percentage of total passengers...and a fair percentage of total hassle. I do not think it will affect total passenger dollars, and will go some way to de-stress the crews.

A number of the emotional support types that I witnessed were, well, 'special.' They did feel an emotional attachment of some sort and were very hard to reason with. They also had no clue about the impact of the animal on anyone around them.

Of course the bulk of the people were just entitled, and dared the crew to protest. On one flight a woman boarded with two retrievers (full disclosure: I am a retriever owner) and felt that the other two people in her row should just deal with it. There were some extra seats so the crew moved people but the woman's attitude was offensive. And the crew was powerless.
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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: mattkime
Date: December 02, 2020 01:32PM
>What about my llama?!!

Dress it up like a dog



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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: December 02, 2020 01:58PM
.....what about alpacas......???



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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: December 02, 2020 03:52PM
I don't think this rule will survive a lawsuit by miniature horse owners.

IIRC, people choose them over dogs because they live longer & the (expensive) training costs about the same.
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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: December 02, 2020 04:35PM
but ..... Woof




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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 02, 2020 04:52PM
Ombligo, LOL!



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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: December 02, 2020 06:17PM
Will PeterB take the clippers to one of his hamsters to make it look like a chihuahua?



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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 02, 2020 06:18PM
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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: $tevie
Date: December 03, 2020 11:12AM
They have needed to tighten up the extremely lax proof of what is a service animal/emotional support animal for a long time. Here's an article from 2014 that demonstrated how easy it is to take pets aboard by gaming the system: [www.newyorker.com]



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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: GGD
Date: December 03, 2020 01:03PM
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$tevie
They have needed to tighten up the extremely lax proof of what is a service animal/emotional support animal for a long time. Here's an article from 2014 that demonstrated how easy it is to take pets aboard by gaming the system: [www.newyorker.com]

Here's a thread from a year ago about a guy who registered a swarm of bees as as emotional support animal.

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Re: What about my llama?!!: 'Transportation Department finalizes rule limiting service animals on flights to dogs'
Posted by: PeterB
Date: December 03, 2020 04:46PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Will PeterB take the clippers to one of his hamsters to make it look like a chihuahua?

Hey, leave my hamsters out of this.

Now, as for my emotional support lion, that's another matter entirely: [www.youtube.com]




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