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The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: sekker
Date: February 12, 2021 07:40PM
One founder is in a heap of trouble over his past sexual transgressions.

The rest seems to all be self-inflicted wounds.

Too bad, I think they represented an important political voice.

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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: hal
Date: February 12, 2021 07:50PM
Steve Schmidt just quit and he was probably their biggest player.

They did lots of good stuff, but their motivations have always worried me. I always worried about a pivot at some point, but it looks like they are just about done now.
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: February 12, 2021 09:59PM
Mission accomplished. Now fade away?
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 12, 2021 10:52PM
Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: $tevie
Date: February 12, 2021 11:41PM
I wouldn't read an article by Glenn Greenwald if you paid me.



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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: February 13, 2021 12:36AM
All the measurements I seen show they had no or little influence in changing how people voted.
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 13, 2021 07:59AM
.....Weaver was married with kids.....but preyed on young men........and in one instance 14 year old boy.....



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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: Pam
Date: February 13, 2021 08:04AM
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All the measurements I seen show they had no or little influence in changing how people voted.

Yep. Money was better spent on grassroot organizations.
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: February 13, 2021 10:38AM
In WW2 the Americans and the Soviets worked together towards a common end. When that was accomplished, those two allies became enemies who now had different views going forward. Views that were incompatible with the other.

Don't think that the same relationship does not exist between the Democrats and the Lincoln Project. The demise of the Lincoln Project now will save many headaches in the future.



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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: Ammo
Date: February 13, 2021 01:09PM
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All the measurements I seen show they had no or little influence in changing how people voted.

But their ads were kind of cathartic to read sometimes.



Where is there dignity unless there is also honesty? - Cicero
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 13, 2021 01:40PM
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All the measurements I seen show they had no or little influence in changing how people voted.

But their ads were kind of cathartic to read sometimes.

It doesn't matter so much as they broke ranks and made a great effort. They get a gold start for that.
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 13, 2021 02:20PM
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All the measurements I seen show they had no or little influence in changing how people voted.

But their ads were kind of cathartic to read sometimes.

It doesn't matter so much as they broke ranks and made a great effort. They get a gold start for that.

Apparently James Carville has been singing their praises of late, because he regularly bemoans that Democrats aren't willing to be mean and fight dirty....



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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 13, 2021 03:49PM
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All the measurements I seen show they had no or little influence in changing how people voted.

But their ads were kind of cathartic to read sometimes.

It doesn't matter so much as they broke ranks and made a great effort. They get a gold start for that.

Apparently James Carville has been singing their praises of late, because he regularly bemoans that Democrats aren't willing to be mean and fight dirty....

Carville is valuable and still influential voice. He was able to articulate a proper level of rage this election season and was widely received. In a democracy, the majority rules. He's entitled to bemoan his concerns, but he always accepts the decisions.
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: $tevie
Date: February 13, 2021 08:05PM
The Lincoln Project was probably primarily preaching to the choir, but they had their place. However, their objectives are still conservative objectives, the Trump thing was a slight detour.



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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 14, 2021 12:49AM
One of their stated objectives was to get into Trump's head with intent to effect his decisions - thus the targeted ad buys on FOX DC. We'll never know for sure but given Trump;s penchant of flying by the seat of his pants decision making it's likely that particular approach bore some fruit.

Some of the paths that campaign took were downright strange like the Parscale misadventure.

Overall I think Ombligo's analogy apt - they were never going to have an affinity for anything but the furthest right of the Democratic Party (Steve Schmidt recently registered as a Dem) and would only make it more difficult for the Party to get behind any sort of progressive agenda.

All-in-all I'm glad they came over even if they grifted while doing so. Now they can maybe drift back to the remaining old wing of the GOP - policy wise they don't have anything to offer Dems.
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Re: The Lincoln Project is in disarray
Posted by: Speedy
Date: February 14, 2021 05:11AM
If the Project manages to launch a new Republican Party, they can still do damage. But realistically, they are a one trick pony.

I love Carville simply because he called the election results early and quite optimistically.



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