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Isaac Asimov
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 06, 2021 04:18PM
from 1974





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Re: Issac Asimov
Posted by: Ammo
Date: March 06, 2021 04:26PM
Wow, this explains so much! I've often thought of the Republican faithful as not just ignorant, but proudly so. What a grade school attitude.



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Re: Issac Asimov
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 06, 2021 04:38PM
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Ammo
Wow, this explains so much! I've often thought of the Republican faithful as not just ignorant, but proudly so. What a grade school attitude.

The "strain of ignorance" goes back forever and previously reached it's zenith with William Jennings Bryan who came close but never snatched the ring. Trump did snatch that ring.
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Re: Issac Asimov
Posted by: Ted King
Date: March 06, 2021 05:34PM
I can't think of anyone I respect more than Isaac Asimov. My wife and I named our son "Isaac" because of him. The summer after I graduated from high school, I read his non-fiction book, The Universe; from flat Earth to Quasar and it expanded my mental horizons immensely. So many big ideas presented in a way that my young, haphazardly developed brain could understand. I could look out at the night sky with even more awe than I had for it before I read the book. Somehow his words helped me feel connected to the vastness of the universe - a vastness that on occasion in my life at the time felt like it was dwarfing me into insignificance.

So, yeah, I love that quote. It is so true.

Edit: oh, no biggie but Isaac has one "s" and two "a"s.



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 06, 2021 06:02PM
I knew that but for me, at least, posting typos are mandatory + it's the weekend so my copy editor is off skiing.

PS: Happening today in Idaho. THIS of the sort of thing he might have had in mind when issuing that quote.



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: $tevie
Date: March 06, 2021 10:37PM
Anybody else have the urge to kern the second line tighter to eliminate the hyphen? Working in an actual typesetting company pre-Macintosh has scarred me for life.



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: sekker
Date: March 06, 2021 11:30PM
Carl Sagan said much the same.

The issue is that the internet makes ignorant people look educated enough to fool even more of the gullible population.
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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 07, 2021 03:15AM
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sekker
Carl Sagan said much the same.

The issue is that the internet makes ignorant people look educated enough to fool even more of the gullible population.

The issue is that the internet makes ignorant politicians look educated enough to fool even more of the gullible population.



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: rgG
Date: March 07, 2021 07:06AM
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$tevie
Anybody else have the urge to kern the second line tighter to eliminate the hyphen? Working in an actual typesetting company pre-Macintosh has scarred me for life.

I thought I was the only one bothered by things like this. Lol





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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 07, 2021 07:59AM
nothing wrong with the hyphen.
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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: PeterB
Date: March 07, 2021 08:36AM
[en.wikipedia.org]

"About 25% of 2,200 Americans surveyed believe in a geocentric solar system (that the sun orbits the earth),[33] and in 2014 35% of Americans could not name any branch of the U.S. government.[34] The U.S. is ranked 52nd out of 139 nations in quality of educational instruction and 12th in the number of university-educated adults.[35] At universities, student anti-intellectualism has resulted in the social acceptability of cheating on schoolwork, especially in the business schools, a manifestation of ethically expedient cognitive dissonance rather than of academic critical thinking.[36]"




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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: March 07, 2021 08:43AM
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$tevie
Anybody else have the urge to kern the second line tighter to eliminate the hyphen? Working in an actual typesetting company pre-Macintosh has scarred me for life.

Yup, it would have flowed better.
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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: sekker
Date: March 07, 2021 09:22AM
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PeterB
[en.wikipedia.org]

"About 25% of 2,200 Americans surveyed believe in a geocentric solar system (that the sun orbits the earth),[33] and in 2014 35% of Americans could not name any branch of the U.S. government.[34] The U.S. is ranked 52nd out of 139 nations in quality of educational instruction and 12th in the number of university-educated adults.[35] At universities, student anti-intellectualism has resulted in the social acceptability of cheating on schoolwork, especially in the business schools, a manifestation of ethically expedient cognitive dissonance rather than of academic critical thinking.[36]"

There is a reason our Founding Fathers like Jefferson believed in education. They knew that an uneducated democracy could not stand the test of time due to issues like Populists. In addition, they made a representative democracy with the goal that you needed some sort of education to be able to make key decisions.

Do not get me wrong, I am a big fan of voter rights. But we might be at the most critical junction of our history these next 10 years (we passed one test Nov 3, 2020 and the entire peaceful transition of power). But we have many key issues ahead of us - do the GOP actually believe in the power of the voter anymore? Do we want to let computer algorithms amplify and thus sway so many voters? Are we even going to invest long-term in public education for all?

EDIT: fixed a typo



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: PeterB
Date: March 07, 2021 10:15AM
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sekker
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PeterB
[en.wikipedia.org]

"About 25% of 2,200 Americans surveyed believe in a geocentric solar system (that the sun orbits the earth),[33] and in 2014 35% of Americans could not name any branch of the U.S. government.[34] The U.S. is ranked 52nd out of 139 nations in quality of educational instruction and 12th in the number of university-educated adults.[35] At universities, student anti-intellectualism has resulted in the social acceptability of cheating on schoolwork, especially in the business schools, a manifestation of ethically expedient cognitive dissonance rather than of academic critical thinking.[36]"

There is a reason our Founder Fathers like Jefferson believed in education. They knew that an uneducated democracy could not stand the test of time due to issues like Populists. In addition, they made a representative democracy with the goal that you needed some sort of education to be able to make key decisions.

Do not get me wrong, I am a big fan of voter rights. But we might be at the most critical junction of our history these next 10 years (we passed one test Nov 3, 2020 and the entire peaceful transition of power). But we have many key issues ahead of us - do the GOP actually believe in the power of the voter anymore? Do we want to let computer algorithms amplify and thus sway so many voters? Are we even going to invest long-term in public education for all?

Yes, it's rather ironic that about half the US population apparently does NOT want people to be educated-- because generally speaking, the uneducated generally do not think critically, are more easily swayed by rhetoric, and can be manipulated to vote their feelings rather than the facts. It's all very Orwellian, and ultimately was what allowed a demagogue to rise to power-- as feared by the Founders.

Look at what is happening right now in Texas, Mississippi, and elsewhere. "I'm done with masks", says one lady from Texas.




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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: wave rider
Date: March 07, 2021 10:29AM
Did Asimov’s Foundation series get ported to the screen or did I miss it?



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: Ted King
Date: March 07, 2021 10:37AM
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wave rider
Did Asimov’s Foundation series get ported to the screen or did I miss it?

[www.youtube.com]
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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: wave rider
Date: March 07, 2021 11:31AM
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wave rider
Did Asimov’s Foundation series get ported to the screen or did I miss it?

[www.youtube.com]

Thanks Ted. I am hopeful it comes out before my AppleTV+ subscription runs out…



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 07, 2021 01:41PM
I'd like to use that quote in my signature for my work email at school, but I would get so shut down for politicizing. I'm already pushing boundaries with the one I use now.

'You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.' --Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche



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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 07, 2021 02:11PM
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Ombligo
I'd like to use that quote in my signature for my work email at school, but I would get so shut down for politicizing. I'm already pushing boundaries with the one I use now.

'You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.' --Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

Probably for the best - sigs have never been know to change anyone's thought patterns. If you can change a mindset with a quote it wasn't a mindset to begin with - it was a blank slate.

Maybe why I have them turned off in preferences at MRF
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Re: Isaac Asimov
Posted by: rgG
Date: March 07, 2021 04:57PM
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RgrF

Maybe why I have them (sigs) turned off in preferences at MRF

And now, you don’t get to see my cute little dancing bear GIF. grinning smiley





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Re: Issac Asimov
Posted by: Wags
Date: March 07, 2021 05:01PM
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Ted King
I can't think of anyone I respect more than Isaac Asimov. My wife and I named our son "Isaac" because of him. The summer after I graduated from high school, I read his non-fiction book, The Universe; from flat Earth to Quasar and it expanded my mental horizons immensely. So many big ideas presented in a way that my young, haphazardly developed brain could understand. I could look out at the night sky with even more awe than I had for it before I read the book. Somehow his words helped me feel connected to the vastness of the universe - a vastness that on occasion in my life at the time felt like it was dwarfing me into insignificance.

So, yeah, I love that quote. It is so true.

Edit: oh, no biggie but Isaac has one "s" and two "a"s.

My sister, who is a now retired academic, was seated next to him at some sort of banquet. As the evening progressed and the wine flowed he shared some of his naughty limericks with her. I've always valued his "Guide to the Bible" which comes in handy when debating a fundamentalist.
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Re: Issac Asimov
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 07, 2021 05:41PM
I am hopeful it comes out before my AppleTV+ subscription runs out…


It's always nice to take advantage of a free offer.

Unless this production stinks, it would be worth the $5/mo. to sign up once all the episodes are out.

Apple often releases three episodes at once, and that could easily be worth $5.

The remaining episodes are then released on a weekly basis.

That's 4-5 episodes a month, so wait one or two months, and one has the rest of the season for another $5, probably $10 total.

Then there's always other content one might find interesting to max out their $10.




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Re: Issac Asimov
Posted by: wave rider
Date: March 07, 2021 09:33PM
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RAMd®d
I am hopeful it comes out before my AppleTV+ subscription runs out…

It's always nice to take advantage of a free offer.


I like to think of it as a complementary offer. Apple has gotten plenty of my dollars in the last year; MBP16 and an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

More Ted Lasso seasons will keep me in the fold as well.
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