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The cruise lines and Florida man
Posted by: pdq
Date: May 29, 2021 10:09AM
...or should I say “political buffoon”?

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Cruise lines see vaccine requirements as their quickest path back to sailing from the United States. But Florida, home to the largest operators and busiest cruise ports in the world, has passed a law saying those companies are not allowed to ask passengers for proof of vaccination status.

Jim Walker, a maritime attorney who runs the Cruise Law News blog, agreed that the state does not have jurisdiction to regulate the cruise lines.

“To see DeSantis come out and to pull this stunt to me just reeks of political buffoonery,” he said.

...and fortunately, he’s not the only one with this opinion.

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Political grandstanding 100 percent,” Miami-based maritime attorney Mike Winkleman said.

... Wendy Parmet, director of the Center for Health Policy and Law at Northeastern University, called the state’s position “amazing on so many levels.”

... the idea that the federal government in general doesn’t have the authority to set the conditions for cruise ships [they do] and that Florida somehow has more authority over who comes in and out of the ports [they dont], that’s really an odd one,” she said.

Parmet called it “deliciously ironic” that DeSantis — who has taken a pro-business, anti-lockdown stance through much of the pandemic — now wants to dictate what businesses can do.

Bottom line: Florida is supposedly now “in negotiations” with cruise lines, but DeSantis and FL GOPers don’t have a legal leg to stand on here; the cruise lines are widely expected to ignore the Florida law and contest (successfully) any fines that DeSantis tries to throw at them.

But it plays to the base, y’know? I just wonder between this, and GA Republicans various efforts to punish Delta economically any time reality conflicts with GOP/NRA dogma, how long will these companies passively put up with this political nonsense?
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Re: The cruise lines and Florida man
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: May 29, 2021 10:39AM
"Your cruise ship is currently anchored just off the coast in international waters.
We will be ferrying all passengers out to her.
You will be required to show valid certification of COVID vaccination in order to board.
If you cannot show certification at the ship, you will be returned to the port on the ferry that brought you out. "


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Re: The cruise lines and Florida man
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: May 29, 2021 01:36PM
I would like to see the cruise lines call DeSantis' bluff and move out of state until the law is changed. There are ports that would welcome them.

That would likely cost him reelection and save the state in the long run.



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-- François de La Rochefoucauld

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Re: The cruise lines and Florida man
Posted by: deckeda
Date: May 29, 2021 08:39PM
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Ombligo
I would like to see the cruise lines call DeSantis' bluff and move out of state until the law is changed. There are ports that would welcome them.

That would likely cost him reelection and save the state in the long run.

They should just do it even if he backs down, and cite the unstable economic environment in the state.
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Re: The cruise lines and Florida man
Posted by: TheCaber
Date: May 30, 2021 01:29PM
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DeusxMac
"Your cruise ship is currently anchored just off the coast in international waters.
We will be ferrying all passengers out to her.
You will be required to show valid certification of COVID vaccination in order to board.
If you cannot show certification at the ship, you will be returned to the port on the ferry that brought you out. "


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And:
"You will not be refunded the cruise fare as that is the cost of the return ferry ride to the port."



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Re: The cruise lines and Florida man
Posted by: pdq
Date: May 31, 2021 05:48PM
Cruise lines and Florida Gov. DeSantis square off over vaccine passports

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"...at the end of the day, cruise ships have motors, propellers and rudders. And God forbid we can't operate in the state of Florida for whatever reason, then there are other states that we do operate from. And we can operate from the Caribbean for ships that otherwise would have gone to Florida," CEO Frank Del Rio said on a recent earnings call with investors and analysts.

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Re: The cruise lines and Florida man
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 01, 2021 09:54PM
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pdq
Cruise lines and Florida Gov. DeSantis square off over vaccine passports

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"...at the end of the day, cruise ships have motors, propellers and rudders. And God forbid we can't operate in the state of Florida for whatever reason, then there are other states that we do operate from. And we can operate from the Caribbean for ships that otherwise would have gone to Florida," CEO Frank Del Rio said on a recent earnings call with investors and analysts.

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I like his style!



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