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Mexico and abortion
Posted by: samintx
Date: September 07, 2021 02:27PM
Just made it constitutional. Does that sound like making it an abortion mill for Texas?
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 07, 2021 02:48PM
No.

It sounds like an historically important day for women's reproductive rights in Mexico.
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 07, 2021 02:54PM
As far as I'm aware, 'abortion mills' are what will replace legal and safe abortion providers for those without the means to leave Texas.



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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: p8712
Date: September 07, 2021 03:41PM
So the wall was to keep women IN. Makes more sense now.
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: testcase
Date: September 07, 2021 05:46PM
Maybe Mexico could build clinics near "the wall" and do "retroactive" abortions? eye rolling smiley


That should "cut down" on our illegal immigrant problem. dunno smiley
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 07, 2021 06:27PM
Right now the frontier is closed to land travelers. Women would need to fly to Mexico to obtain reproductive healthcare. Might as well fly to a nearby state.



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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 07, 2021 06:48PM
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Speedy
Right now the frontier is closed to land travelers. Women would need to fly to Mexico to obtain reproductive healthcare. Might as well fly to a nearby state.

Does jumping across the border qualify as flying?



It is what it is.
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: p8712
Date: September 07, 2021 06:51PM
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Speedy
Right now the frontier is closed to land travelers. Women would need to fly to Mexico to obtain reproductive healthcare. Might as well fly to a nearby state.

Inflatable raft and take your chances on the Rio Grande. Assuming you’re an appropriate race, they will not immediately try to shoot you. Probably.
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 07, 2021 06:54PM
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testcase
Maybe Mexico could build clinics near "the wall" and do "retroactive" abortions? eye rolling smiley


That should "cut down" on our illegal immigrant problem. dunno smiley

What is meant by "retroactive" abortion?
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 08, 2021 02:12PM
As far as I'm aware, 'abortion mills' are what will replace legal and safe abortion providers for those without the means to leave Texas.


If you're defining 'mills' as something that is illegal and clandestine, then I'd agree.

Certainly the climate for new clinics will not be good.

While a lot of 'Botched' surgeries occur in Mexico, certainly it's capable of good medical treatment, probably at a lesser expense then here in the US.

But getting there would still be problematic.

So, TX begins to restrict birth control, while allowing legal abortions only within a six week window that could in reality be only four weeks.

This is just furthering the historical punishing of women for incurring unwanted pregnancies, rather than protecting and preserving the sanctity of human life.

Keeping women in their place, barefoot and pregnant?

Clearly, legislators there still believe TX is chattle country.





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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 09, 2021 04:07AM
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RAMd®d
As far as I'm aware, 'abortion mills' are what will replace legal and safe abortion providers for those without the means to leave Texas.


If you're defining 'mills' as something that is illegal and clandestine, then I'd agree.

Certainly the climate for new clinics will not be good.

While a lot of 'Botched' surgeries occur in Mexico, certainly it's capable of good medical treatment, probably at a lesser expense then here in the US.

But getting there would still be problematic.

So, TX begins to restrict birth control, while allowing legal abortions only within a six week window that could in reality be only four weeks.

This is just furthering the historical punishing of women for incurring unwanted pregnancies, rather than protecting and preserving the sanctity of human life.

Keeping women in their place, barefoot and pregnant?

Clearly, legislators there still believe TX is chattle country.

It’s not Texas as much as the SCOTUS. That’s where the buck stops.



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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 09, 2021 08:03AM
That’s where the buck stops.


True, when it finally and eventually stops.

And I'm not heartened, given that it's Republican-heavy.

45* has lost against the SCOTUS of his choosing (mostly) so I won't say that TX and ROE won't be dealt with to my satisfaction, but confidence is not high.





Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody matters or nobody matters.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Mexico and abortion
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 12, 2021 01:11PM
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RAMd®d
That’s where the buck stops.


True, when it finally and eventually stops.

And I'm not heartened, given that it's Republican-heavy.

45* has lost against the SCOTUS of his choosing (mostly) so I won't say that TX and ROE won't be dealt with to my satisfaction, but confidence is not high.

If/when Congress codifies Roe, 45's SCOTUS will be moot.
Ditto for voter's rights.
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