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Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 14, 2021 10:17PM
Even reddish San Diego supported the Dem.

Now Cali please fix this so you don't waste $300m on another recall .

The same guy has to run again next year in a normal election.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/2021 10:22PM by Lemon Drop.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsome, recall fails
Posted by: steve...
Date: September 14, 2021 10:26PM
Early voting results statewide according to Steve Kornacki on MSNBC: NO 68%

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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsome, recall fails
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 14, 2021 10:31PM
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steve...
Early voting results statewide according to Steve Kornacki on MSNBC: NO 68%

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What does Steve Kornacki do the rest of the year when there's no election in progress?
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsome, recall fails
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 14, 2021 10:33PM
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steve...
Early voting results statewide according to Steve Kornacki on MSNBC: NO 68%

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What does Steve Kornacki do the rest of the year when there's no election in progress?

He does sports forecasts on ESPN.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 14, 2021 10:36PM
Barely over half an hour to kick Elder's butt.
Yay!

Truth be told, I signed the recall petition as "Uramutta Phuggar," hoping there'd be lots of bogus signatures, and that the recall wouldn't gen enough legs to proceed.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 14, 2021 10:50PM
San Francisco and Marin Counties are in a neck and neck race to see who gets the highest % NO vote -- right now it's Frisco 88 to 85. Even redneck strongholds like San Bernardino and Riverside (where the elected sheriff declared he'd not enforce mask mandates coming from Newsom, Biden or presumably GOD) have voted NO.

GQP under Trump has now lost the House, Senate, Presidency and this recall farce -- will they learn anything or double down again?
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: p8712
Date: September 14, 2021 10:54PM
Thank you for everyone in California voted.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 14, 2021 10:57PM
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RgrF
GQP under Trump has now lost the House, Senate, Presidency and this recall farce -- will they learn anything or double down again?

Lost? They won by huge landslides in their minds but it was stolen from them each time.

"We're Going To Win So Much You're Going To Get Sick Of Winning"
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 14, 2021 11:01PM
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Lemon Drop
Even reddish San Diego supported the Dem.

Now Cali please fix this so you don't waste $300m on another recall .

The same guy has to run again next year in a normal election.

They won't do it. We've tried for forever. We were lucky Arnold turned out to be an okay guy. I'm still holding my breath for this one.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 14, 2021 11:30PM
I drove 400 miles to do this.

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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 14, 2021 11:49PM
"see who gets the highest % NO vote -- right now it's Frisco 88 to 85...."

The use of that name should be banned. cool smiley
While I've been in LA since the late 1960's, I was born in SF, and most of us native San Franciscans don't appreciate the entirety of The City being referred to by the 19th century nickname for the then unsavory part(s) of town. Appreciate the election sentiments, but Otis Redding was the only person that got a pass for his abuse of the name, and he came damn close to joining, if not being a charter member of The 27 Club.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 14, 2021 11:56PM
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Buzz
"see who gets the highest % NO vote -- right now it's Frisco 88 to 85...."

The use of that name should be banned. cool smiley
While I've been in LA since the late 1960's, I was born in SF, and most of us native San Franciscans don't appreciate the entirety of The City being referred to by the 19th century nickname for the then unsavory part(s) of town. Appreciate the election sentiments, but Otis Redding was the only person that got a pass for his abuse of the name, and he came damn close to joining, if not being a charter member of The 27 Club.
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The irritant factor might just be the reason I used it!
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 15, 2021 12:04AM
I loved that show when it was on. I even have the DVD set.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 15, 2021 12:08AM
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Buzz
"see who gets the highest % NO vote -- right now it's Frisco 88 to 85...."

The use of that name should be banned. cool smiley
While I've been in LA since the late 1960's, I was born in SF, and most of us native San Franciscans don't appreciate the entirety of The City being referred to by the 19th century nickname for the then unsavory part(s) of town. Appreciate the election sentiments, but Otis Redding was the only person that got a pass for his abuse of the name, and he came damn close to joining, if not being a charter member of The 27 Club.
==

Technically bikers and Black San Franciscans historically got the pass.

My buddy keeps thinking that South San Francisco is the Bayview, Oceanview etc. He hears people say "The City," and "South City." I tell him that South City is a whole other city, he's still confused.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 15, 2021 12:59AM
It's like Seattle. There is Seattle inside the city limits, and "Seattle" which is half the county to most people.

When I visited San Fransisco the first time, I fully understood "the Bay Area" is massive, and San Fransisco is just a pretty tiny spot in the center-ish part.



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The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Todd's keyboard
Date: September 15, 2021 01:54AM
When I lived in the city in the mid-eighties, friends would distinguish between the city of San Francisco and the county of San Francisco. The difference was usually that I lived in the county (outer Richmond and outer Sunset), while they lived in the city (Presidio, Noe Valley, and Upper Market).

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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 15, 2021 04:57AM
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RgrF
GQP under Trump has now lost the House, Senate, Presidency and this recall farce -- will they learn anything or double down again?

Lost? They won by huge landslides in their minds but it was stolen from them each time.

"We're Going To Win So Much You're Going To Get Sick Of Winning"

Yep, it was stolen. Even before the first ballot was cast. But at least Elder’s show will have huge ratings for the next day or so.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 15, 2021 05:00AM
CA Turns Back Red Tide!

Repubs Are Fit To Be Tied!

Larry Elder, the frontrunner to replace Newsom if recalled, has conceded.

So does this mean Elder has fully accepted the election results as valid, or will he begin election fraud rhetoric.

Or will he skip it, in light of his premeditated, premature election fraud 'campaign'.





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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 15, 2021 05:04AM
I would imagine people will soon bring to Elder’s attention that there is a ton of evidence of fraud. It will keep his listeners tuning in.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 15, 2021 05:54AM
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Todd's keyboard
When I lived in the city in the mid-eighties, friends would distinguish between the city of San Francisco and the county of San Francisco. The difference was usually that I lived in the county (outer Richmond and outer Sunset), while they lived in the city (Presidio, Noe Valley, and Upper Market).

Todd's foggy keyboard

My understanding has alway been that SF city and county limits are identical.



It is what it is.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: September 15, 2021 06:31AM
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Speedy
I would imagine people will soon bring to Elder’s attention that there is a ton of evidence of fraud. It will keep his listeners tuning in.

The paper ballots had an unusually high bamboo-content.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: August West
Date: September 15, 2021 07:50AM
I always knew Marin as the county and SF as the city.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 15, 2021 08:45AM
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Buzz
"see who gets the highest % NO vote -- right now it's Frisco 88 to 85...."

The use of that name should be banned. cool smiley
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 15, 2021 08:54AM
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Lemon Drop
Now Cali please fix this so you don't waste $300m on another recall..

I second this. You can send an elected governor to a recall with a small fraction of voters (at his/her most unpopular time), and if you manage to get a simple majority of the recall vote, then someone else can be elected with a tiny minority of that recall vote.

For instance, if the recall turnout had been weak and Newsom had lost by getting only 48% of the vote (“No”), he would have been replaced by a guy with only ~25% of the recall turnout.

confused smiley



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 15, 2021 09:13AM
Yeah it's undemocratic and was written into the state constitution during pretty undemocratic times. Time for an amendment, an amendment the state GQP is too weak to stop.

Were California a GQP stronghold and Grey Davis their Governor, that amendment process would have started the day after they took back the third branch (Gov).
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: wave rider
Date: September 15, 2021 10:00AM
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p8712
Thank you for everyone in California voted.

You are very welcome!



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: September 15, 2021 10:16AM
I'll wait for the Maricopa AZ audit just to be sure about this.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 15, 2021 10:23AM
Lassen County with 83% yes votes and a population smaller than my zip code is the winner of the "Most Out of Step" award.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: September 15, 2021 10:42AM
checking in with Fox, you have to scroll down 22 stories before reaching one on Newsome's California victory.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: September 15, 2021 10:53AM
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Todd's keyboard
Date: September 15, 2021 11:04AM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Todd's keyboard
When I lived in the city in the mid-eighties, friends would distinguish between the city of San Francisco and the county of San Francisco. The difference was usually that I lived in the county (outer Richmond and outer Sunset), while they lived in the city (Presidio, Noe Valley, and Upper Market).

Todd's foggy keyboard

My understanding has alway been that SF city and county limits are identical.

Correct. That's why determining a false distinction was a joke to my friends.

"Oh, I (hip, urban, etc.) live in the city of SF, while those people (hicks, uncultured, etc.) only live in the county of SF.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 15, 2021 11:05AM
I think he may have lost by total acreage.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Janit
Date: September 15, 2021 11:17AM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Todd's keyboard
When I lived in the city in the mid-eighties, friends would distinguish between the city of San Francisco and the county of San Francisco. The difference was usually that I lived in the county (outer Richmond and outer Sunset), while they lived in the city (Presidio, Noe Valley, and Upper Market).

Todd's foggy keyboard

My understanding has alway been that SF city and county limits are identical.


True since 1856:

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The City of San Francisco was the seat of San Francisco County until 1856, when the county was split into the consolidated City and County of San Francisco in the north, with the remainder of old San Francisco County becoming the new County of San Mateo.)

[en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: wave rider
Date: September 15, 2021 11:18AM
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Acer
I think he may have lost by total acreage.

Thank goodness acreage doesn’t vote except in the U.S. Senate…



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: hal
Date: September 15, 2021 11:20AM
I'm convinced that the idea that Elder was going to win was a liberal conspiracy plot designed to scare dems into voting. I'm pretty sure it was Vision63 behind it all.

The very idea was preposterous...
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 15, 2021 12:09PM
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Todd's keyboard
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Todd's keyboard
When I lived in the city in the mid-eighties, friends would distinguish between the city of San Francisco and the county of San Francisco. The difference was usually that I lived in the county (outer Richmond and outer Sunset), while they lived in the city (Presidio, Noe Valley, and Upper Market).

Todd's foggy keyboard

My understanding has alway been that SF city and county limits are identical.

Correct. That's why determining a false distinction was a joke to my friends.

"Oh, I (hip, urban, etc.) live in the city of SF, while those people (hicks, uncultured, etc.) only live in the county of SF.

Gotcha. I guess us SoCal folk are completely out of the loop on this one. grinning smiley



It is what it is.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 15, 2021 12:26PM
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RgrF
Lassen County with 83% yes votes and a population smaller than my zip code is the winner of the "Most Out of Step" award.

They're about to get a phone call from Larry Elder. "I need you to find me 2.5 million votes!"
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 15, 2021 03:41PM
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vision63
I drove 400 miles to do this.


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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Ammo
Date: September 15, 2021 04:33PM
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Sarcany
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Speedy
I would imagine people will soon bring to Elder’s attention that there is a ton of evidence of fraud. It will keep his listeners tuning in.

The paper ballots had an unusually high bamboo-content.

Yes, but only the overseas ones.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 15, 2021 04:51PM




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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: bfd
Date: September 15, 2021 05:34PM
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Lemon Drop
Even reddish San Diego supported the Dem.

Now Cali please fix this so you don't waste $300m on another recall .

The same guy has to run again next year in a normal election.

San Diego really isn't reddish anymore. The small percentage of Trumpers in the east county are far outnumbered by the city and coastal communities - it's a very similar demographic as exists in the state.

San Diego's City Council has one out of nine members Republican; the Mayor and 8 councilmembers are Dems. County government has only 2/5 supervisors Republicans.

Even Darell Issa's victory last year was not an easy win - and that was in the east/north county enclave of Trumpers.

Things have changed.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: bfd
Date: September 15, 2021 05:45PM
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Filliam H. Muffman

Noteworthy is how few people actually live in the counties that voted majority "Yes" compared with the rest of the counties in California. The map makes the results look far closer than reality. It's a whole lot of area with very few voters - relatively. That upper northeast corner that shows yes probably has fewer than 250,000 voters. Compare that with the total number of voters in the state … somewhere in the 30m range.


[en.wikipedia.org]
[www.california-demographics.com]
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 15, 2021 05:49PM
More farm animals than voters in a lot of those counties.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: bfd
Date: September 15, 2021 05:51PM
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RgrF
More farm animals than voters in a lot of those counties.

And Spotted Owls… burned trees, and grapes, too.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 15, 2021 08:18PM
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hal
I'm convinced that the idea that Elder was going to win was a liberal conspiracy plot designed to scare dems into voting. I'm pretty sure it was Vision63 behind it all.

The very idea was preposterous...
I do believe it was meant to prevent Dems from lounging about on election day assuming that Elder had no chance. Assumption is a good way to lose an election.



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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 15, 2021 08:32PM
So they "salted" some of those early August polls?
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 15, 2021 08:37PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Todd's keyboard
When I lived in the city in the mid-eighties, friends would distinguish between the city of San Francisco and the county of San Francisco. The difference was usually that I lived in the county (outer Richmond and outer Sunset), while they lived in the city (Presidio, Noe Valley, and Upper Market).

Todd's foggy keyboard

My understanding has alway been that SF city and county limits are identical.

The city of San Franscisco is actually a 7 mile square. A 49 square mile county would be pretty damn small. Pull up Google Maps and look for the city limits. A real eye opener.



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The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 15, 2021 08:52PM
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RgrF
The irritant factor might just be the reason I used it!

     

You poked the bear!
On purpose!


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vision63
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Buzz
"see who gets the highest % NO vote -- right now it's Frisco 88 to 85...."

The use of that name should be banned. cool smiley
While I've been in LA since the late 1960's, I was born in SF, and most of us native San Franciscans don't appreciate the entirety of The City being referred to by the 19th century nickname for the then unsavory part(s) of town. Appreciate the election sentiments, but Otis Redding was the only person that got a pass for his abuse of the name, and he came damn close to joining, if not being a charter member of The 27 Club.
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Technically bikers and Black San Franciscans historically got the pass.

My buddy keeps thinking that South San Francisco is the Bayview, Oceanview etc. He hears people say "The City," and "South City." I tell him that South City is a whole other city, he's still confused.

Technically it was bikers' patches on their colors that got the pass, because "San Francisco" was a much tougher fit, and their verbal abuse of The City's name was primarily confined to use among biker club members, and their hanger's ons, as a sign of their bikerism....



and Otis was Black and had very long coattails, that admittedly grew much longer after his death..... My indoctrination into The City's nomenclature history predated Otis's rise to prominence and premature death, and I moved to LA while "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" was still a current song. A couple of years later, my father died in a similarly sized (to Otis's Beechcraft) Piper Aircraft plane when it crashed next to Mavericks at Half Moon Bay; though still way too young, pops was considerably older than Otis. My apologies for not including Otis's coattails originally, but hopefully it was an excusable ignorance due to lack of proximity.

Yes, I too, had many friends from South City, which while south of, and adjacent to San Francisco, was, and is in a whole other county, San Mateo County. It may share part of its name, and the Bayshore Hwy/Fwy w/ The City, and people from there can also be quite territorial at times, definitely NOT wanting any confusion w/ their more famous northern neighbor.
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P.S.: Lux - we had those books, too.
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: bfd
Date: September 15, 2021 10:45PM
Next up, San Berdoo
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Re: Landslide victory for Gov Newsom, recall fails
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 16, 2021 07:54AM
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Racer X
The city of San Franscisco is actually a 7 mile square. A 49 square mile county would be pretty damn small. Pull up Google Maps and look for the city limits. A real eye opener.

Not sure I understand this comment. What's the "real eye opener"?
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