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"'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Ted King
Date: September 24, 2021 10:41AM
[www.nbcnews.com]

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Anti-vaccine Facebook groups have a new message for their community members: Don’t go to the emergency room, and get your loved ones out of intensive care units.

Consumed by conspiracy theories claiming that doctors are preventing unvaccinated patients from receiving miracle cures or are even killing them on purpose, some people in anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin Facebook groups are telling those with Covid-19 to stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments, according to posts seen by NBC News over the past few weeks.
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In recent weeks, some anti-vaccine Facebook groups and conspiracy theory influencers on the encrypted messaging app Telegram have offered instructions on how to get family members released from the hospital, usually by insisting they be transferred into hospice care, and have recorded those they’ve successfully removed from hospitals for viral videos.

Some people in groups that formed recently to promote the false cure ivermectin, an anti-parasite treatment, have claimed extracting Covid patients from hospitals is pivotal so that they can self-medicate at home with ivermectin. But as the patients begin to realize that ivermectin by itself is not effective, the groups have begun recommending a series of increasingly hazardous at-home treatments, such as gargling with iodine, and nebulizing and inhaling hydrogen peroxide, calling it part of a “protocol.”
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With Covid cases rising among people who refuse to get vaccinated, and disinformation continuing to spread on social media, anti-vaccine groups have given rise to what Harvard Medical School physician Aditi Nerurkar calls “vigilante medicine,” wherein patients are deferring potentially lifesaving care from doctors to try unproven cures pushed on Facebook.

“It’s vigilante medicine: medicine being practiced by laypeople who are reading groups created by other laypeople in echo chambers and silos that, likely, someone in the anti-vax movement is profiting from,” she said.


Well, at least the movement is freeing up beds in hospitals for non-cuckoos.



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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 24, 2021 11:16AM
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 24, 2021 11:16AM
The culling continues.



It is what it is.
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 24, 2021 11:20AM
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 24, 2021 11:33AM
Anti-vaxxers, worried that science based medicine and methodologies will harm AVers when in ICUs, take it upon themselves to hasten the process, freeing up some space, even for a short time.

I'm torn, as I'm sure some of those people might actually want to be/wanted to be vaccinated but were 'overruled' by idiots.

Regardless, the culling continues.

And Avers don't at all realized it's completely self-inflicted.





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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: September 24, 2021 11:52AM
They need to determine and release just how much those at the top of the antivax movement are making from grifting the paranoid.

It’s sickening.

Sadly, that info would be unlikely to make a difference. It’s a cult.o
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: p8712
Date: September 24, 2021 12:10PM
Bye, Felicia.

But hypoxia does lead to poor decisions, like wanting to leave the hospital. Decisions that would not be made with normal blood oxygen levels.
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: September 24, 2021 12:47PM
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: September 24, 2021 12:58PM

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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 24, 2021 01:30PM
Nailed it, Steve G!



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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 24, 2021 02:09PM
Every time it seems we've hit the nadir of COVID ignorance they find a new level. banghead smiley



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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 24, 2021 04:24PM


I can't imagine having to deal with a steady stream of patients dying...



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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 24, 2021 05:14PM
Most hospitals have a cooler where the bodies go until they're picked up by the funeral home.

They're prolly pretty well stacked up in there.
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 24, 2021 08:15PM
I can't imagine having to deal with a steady stream of patients dying...


I remember an interview with a nurse talking about the debilitation onslaught of COVID death.

Yeah, it must get pretty rough, pretty quick.

"It's tragic that we are only able to keep pace with these sort of numbers because in part some of our ICU patients have passed away," she said. "This reality has a deep and lasting impact on our ICU teams." —Dr. Verna Yiu





Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody matters or nobody matters.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 24, 2021 10:43PM
I’m 100% behind these antivaxxers and their efforts.



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Re: "'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs"
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 25, 2021 03:54PM
One of our teachers is also a funeral director, he told me earlier this week that he has 11 funerals scheduled for this weekend, nearly half are Covid related.



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