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All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 28, 2021 07:49PM
Have forgotten about the first part of "To Protect, And To Serve"

That is all.

[news.yahoo.com]



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The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: davester
Date: September 28, 2021 08:35PM
Religious exemptions should be incredibly difficult to get, requiring at the very least that you present proof that you have practiced your religion for a long period of time and that said religion has a documented and consistent past record of being opposed to all vaccinations. Even then I think it's a stretch.

As to the 193 officers requesting an exemption, they are all liars.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan



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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 28, 2021 08:40PM
I'm with you. That is the policy that many hospitals are taking. At least one has said if you got a flu shot last year, you automatically can't claim an exemption, and will be denied on the spot.



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The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 28, 2021 09:53PM
[www.washingtonpost.com]

N.C. hospital system fires about 175 workers in one of the largest-ever mass terminations due to a vaccine mandate

A North Carolina-based hospital system announced Monday that roughly 175 unvaccinated employees were fired for failing to comply with the organization’s mandatory coronavirus vaccination policy, the latest in a series of health-care dismissals over coronavirus immunization.

Novant Health said last week that 375 unvaccinated workers — across 15 hospitals and 800 clinics — had been suspended for not getting immunized. Unvaccinated employees were given five days to comply.

Novant Health spokeswoman Megan Rivers tweeted Monday that almost 200 of the suspended workers, including those who had submitted approved exemptions, received their first dose by Friday. The hospital confirmed that the rest of the suspended employees who did not comply were fired, although the exact number of those dismissed was not specified.

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Some unvaccinated workers remained adamant about not getting immunized. Laura Rushing, a nurse of 16 years with Novant Health, told WSOC that the hospital system denied her religious exemption and that she planned to look for a new job.

“When they put the mandate out there, one thing I knew for sure was I was not gonna take the shot. So, I put in for a religious exemption and got denied,” Rushing told the outlet. “Who decided my religious exemption, the wording used was not good enough? It wasn’t as good as someone else’s? That just feels like discrimination and I didn’t appreciate it.”

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Two weeks ago, she said nothing about her "faith" to reporters.
“I do care, I’m in a healthcare profession. I care about people but [the shot] is not worth it to me,” Rushing said.

She’s fearful of the side effects that could be associated with getting the shot.

“For me, there is just a lot of unknowns about the risks, what could potentially happen. Sure you can take it and nothing happens but what if I’m the one who takes it, heaven forbid I die or I’m incapacitated. I’m a single mom,” Rushing said.

[spectrumlocalnews.com]



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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 28, 2021 09:59PM
To be fair, Novant health has over 30k employees.

So 99.6% are vaccinated.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 28, 2021 10:06PM
And San Fran has 83% of the police force vaccinated, seems like about the same as the general population, which is excellent.

Seems like barking up the wrong tree.

I do agree tho that religious exemptions are @#$%&.
They should not exist for public health issues IMO.



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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: jdc
Date: September 28, 2021 10:30PM
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Speedy
Two weeks ago, she said nothing about her "faith" to reporters.
“I do care, I’m in a healthcare profession. I care about people but [the shot] is not worth it to me,” Rushing said.

She’s fearful of the side effects that could be associated with getting the shot.

“For me, there is just a lot of unknowns about the risks, what could potentially happen. Sure you can take it and nothing happens but what if I’m the one who takes it, heaven forbid I die or I’m incapacitated. I’m a single mom,” Rushing said.

this is the part I always never can wrap my head around.

lat I looked, 3 people *possibly* have died from the J&J shot.

But near 700K from 19.

Seems like simple math.





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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 28, 2021 11:20PM
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jdc
Seems like simple math.

ONLY IF YOU BELIEVE THE LIES WAKE UP SHEEPLE



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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 29, 2021 12:02AM
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jdc
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Speedy
Two weeks ago, she said nothing about her "faith" to reporters.
“I do care, I’m in a healthcare profession. I care about people but [the shot] is not worth it to me,” Rushing said.

She’s fearful of the side effects that could be associated with getting the shot.

“For me, there is just a lot of unknowns about the risks, what could potentially happen. Sure you can take it and nothing happens but what if I’m the one who takes it, heaven forbid I die or I’m incapacitated. I’m a single mom,” Rushing said.

this is the part I always never can wrap my head around.

lat I looked, 3 people *possibly* have died from the J&J shot.

But near 700K from 19.

Seems like simple math.

New Math.



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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 29, 2021 07:21AM
I believe the statistics show that LEO's are dying of COVID-19 at a far greater rate than from on the job attacks / accidents.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 29, 2021 08:14AM
As I commented in the thread about anti-vax nurses and doctors...

A bell-shaped curve of competence (and innate intelligence) exists in ALL professions.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 29, 2021 08:19AM
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jdc
this is the part I always never can wrap my head around.

lat I looked, 3 people *possibly* have died from the J&J shot.

But near 700K from 19.

Seems like simple math.

Well, if the President of the United States told you it was a hoax, and you didn't know anybody who got really sick or died, then you might think, "I'll never get it, and if I do, I won't get really sick, so why risk a vaccine?"

Then add in the miracle cures, like apple-flavored horse paste, and you can write it off (getting the vaccine) completely.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: September 29, 2021 09:20AM
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Racer X
Have forgotten about the first part of "To Protect, And To Serve"

That is all.

[news.yahoo.com]

I think "To Protect" went out the window some time ago.
Shooting innocent people in their own homes and executing people on the streets without a trial for minor crimes seems a bit inconsistent with that.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 29, 2021 09:27AM
Some gaming at play here. It was revealed that most, if not all, of the state police here who threaten to retire over this are of retirement age and would probably do that regardless. So, they can bargain for the group and then do what they were going to do any way.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 29, 2021 10:13AM
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S. Pupp
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Racer X
Have forgotten about the first part of "To Protect, And To Serve"

That is all.

[news.yahoo.com]

I think "To Protect" went out the window some time ago.
Shooting innocent people in their own homes and executing people on the streets without a trial for minor crimes seems a bit inconsistent with that.

There are many who have also been short on the second part.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: deckeda
Date: September 29, 2021 11:18AM
193 officers self-identified as liars and unfit for duty. Buh-bye, and don't let the bluff hit you on the way out.

"B-b-but you'll all be sorry when crime starts to increase as a result ...."

We're already sorry. The nation is sorry. The world is sorry. And now your sorry-ass is outta work.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 29, 2021 11:21AM
High chance that they are Q-challenged and/or Alt-Reich, so it's a two-fer. I wonder if the FBI/TSA will be putting these people in a watch list.



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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: September 29, 2021 12:32PM
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deckeda
193 officers self-identified as liars and unfit for duty. Buh-bye, and don't let the bluff hit you on the way out.

"B-b-but you'll all be sorry when crime starts to increase as a result ...."

We're already sorry. The nation is sorry. The world is sorry. And now your sorry-ass is outta work.

They'll just file for disability when their religious exemption is denied.

And be evaluated for that disability claim by a physician provided by their union.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: deckeda
Date: September 29, 2021 12:45PM
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Bill in NC
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deckeda
193 officers self-identified as liars and unfit for duty. Buh-bye, and don't let the bluff hit you on the way out.

"B-b-but you'll all be sorry when crime starts to increase as a result ...."

We're already sorry. The nation is sorry. The world is sorry. And now your sorry-ass is outta work.

They'll just file for disability when their religious exemption is denied.

And be evaluated for that disability claim by a physician provided by their union.

Anything that delays their paycheck is fine with me.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 29, 2021 02:56PM
TX BIL's unvaxxed sheriff's deputy BIL out here in Riverside, CA crumped over Labor Day.... evidently amongst a hotbed of non-vaxxers.

You can't fix stupid; whatever the profession.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: testcase
Date: September 29, 2021 04:05PM
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davester
Religious exemptions should be incredibly difficult to get, requiring at the very least that you present proof that you have practiced your religion for a long period of time and that said religion has a documented and consistent past record of being opposed to all vaccinations. Even then I think it's a stretch.

As to the 193 officers requesting an exemption, they are all liars.


That’s one “slippery slope” you’re setting up. old fogey smiley
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Fritz
Date: September 29, 2021 06:11PM
I said it before and here it is again.

Owen got himself stuck 60' up a tree ...... once.



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If there are spelling issues, please pardon, Owen the cat is sitting on my keyboard.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 29, 2021 06:16PM
Why do I feel like I should know what you're referencing when I don't?
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Fritz
Date: September 29, 2021 06:43PM
Guess you had to be there.



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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 29, 2021 07:03PM
I'll remember to be next time.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Ammo
Date: September 29, 2021 07:11PM
“For me, there is just a lot of unknowns about the risks, what could potentially happen. Sure you can take it and nothing happens but what if I’m the one who takes it, heaven forbid I die or I’m incapacitated. I’m a single mom,” Rushing said.

To be precise, you are an unemployed single mom.



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Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. —Wendy Mass
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: Don C
Date: September 29, 2021 09:04PM
Our cleaning lady announced her reticence to get the vaccine the other day, claiming that she regularly follows the CDC publications and had too many questions based on what she reads.

I suggested that she should just look at the numbers ... unvaccinated people tend to have serious problems and many die; vaccinated people tend to not do that.

Don't think I made a dent.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: deckeda
Date: September 30, 2021 02:51PM
^ Tell her that due to health and safety reasons unvaccinated people can also suffer from immediate loss of employment, too.
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Re: All those law enforcement officers refusing to be vaccinated...
Posted by: mattkime
Date: October 01, 2021 02:43PM
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deckeda
^ Tell her that due to health and safety reasons unvaccinated people can also suffer from immediate loss of employment, too.

Or take the carrot approach and offer her $50-100 to get the shot.



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