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Why people are leery of police - vol CLIV
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 12, 2022 09:29PM
Police in Virginia Beach forged forensic science reports used in criminal interrogations at least five times, according to Attorney General Mark Herring, who announced Wednesday that the department had agreed to end the practice following an investigation by his Office of Civil Rights...

...“One thing to bear in mind that most people don’t know is that police are absolutely permitted to lie to suspects,” said Steve Benjamin, a criminal defense lawyer in Richmond. “The question is, whether actually manufacturing false evidence to present crosses a line.”




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Re: Why people are leery of police - vol CLIV
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 12, 2022 10:13PM
Until I was instructed not to, I used to show a youtube video of a former police officer, now a law school professor talking to college students. He is telling them why they should never, under any circumstances say anything to any law enforcement officer except to say that they want an attorney.

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The school police objected, saying that I was instructing students not to be cooperative. The principal agreed that students should not be made aware of their rights and I was told to stop showing the video.



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Re: Why people are leery of police - vol CLIV
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 13, 2022 12:30AM
Falsifying any part of a ME report is a felony, and I have every reason to believe falsifying any report related to a death is as well.

Now, if it is never filed, and destroyed/ then dunno smiley

Inferring you have evidence is one thing, but I think flat out lying is VERY shortsighted, and LEOs are reaping what has been sown for generations. Faking a report/document and presenting it as fact to the accused is blatant lying.



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Re: Why people are leery of police - vol CLIV
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 13, 2022 07:32AM
"If you have a problem and you call the police...well, now you have two problems."
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Re: Why people are leery of police - vol CLIV
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: January 14, 2022 08:45PM
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Ombligo
Until I was instructed not to, I used to show a youtube video of a former police officer, now a law school professor talking to college students. He is telling them why they should never, under any circumstances say anything to any law enforcement officer except to say that they want an attorney.

[www.youtube.com]


The school police objected, saying that I was instructing students not to be cooperative. The principal agreed that students should not be made aware of their rights and I was told to stop showing the video.

Great video! Thanks for sharing!!



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