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The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: January 29, 2022 06:53PM
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The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so assholes can identify each other?
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Yes 8
 
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No 4
 
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You know it started out as a comic book character so maybe they're just fans of the character. 4
 
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 29, 2022 07:42PM
Thought they could identify each other by smell.
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 29, 2022 07:53PM
Oh and don’t forget the solid, all-black flag, i.e. “a nation in distress” (that their anarchy causes, but whatevs.)
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 29, 2022 08:03PM
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RgrF
Thought they could identify each other by smell.

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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: January 29, 2022 08:39PM
Nope. They may (probably?) have peed in the intellectual property punch bowl for Marvel with their co-opting of the image*, but if it hadn’t been that, it would have been some other ‘kewl’ image.

Anything can be soiled by association with the worst of us. Look at Pepé the Frog and the “okay” hand symbol; both brought into disrepute from simpler origins.

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*Marvel did did pushback, as I understand it with a story in the comics where the Punisher harshly sets right a misguided cop Punisher wannabe, telling him…
“I’ll tell you this once. We’re not the same. You took an oath to uphold the law, you help people. I gave all that up along time ago. You don’t do what I do. Nobody does.

You boys need a role model? His name is Captain America, and he’d be happy to have you.


The character’s creator Gerry Conway [who has no ownership stake in the character] had this to say, ”… Conway, the writer who co-created him in 1974 with artists Ross Andru and John Romita tells Newsweek, "I could definitely see it might be time for him to step back for a bit. Not because there's anything necessarily wrong with the character, but given where we are right now in our society.”

And when some rogue law enforcement personnel began co-opting the imagery, Conway countered by starting a campaign to have artists of color redesign the skull logo for a T-shirt line called "Skulls for Justice." All proceeds from the shirts—more than $70,000 thus far, according to Conway—have been donated to Black Lives Matter.




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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 29, 2022 09:05PM
One of the Seal Team 3 squadrons has a Punisher-esque unit patch.



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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: January 29, 2022 09:06PM
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deckeda
Oh and don’t forget the solid, all-black flag, i.e. “a nation in distress” (that their anarchy causes, but whatevs.)

More to the point, ”It means that they will not surrender, will not take prisoners, and are willing to die for their cause. It means they will execute their enemies. (Salon)



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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 29, 2022 09:16PM
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Racer X
One of the Seal Team 3 squadrons has a Punisher-esque unit patch.

As do a number of AL Sheriff's gangs.
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Of course not.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 29, 2022 09:53PM
Merely Red Hatted pomp and circumstance, misappropriating an image to fulfill fantasy.


”It means that they will not surrender, will not take prisoners, and are willing to die for their cause. It means they will execute their enemies.

Now going far beyond fantasy into the delusionary.

Grown men as boys playing pirates.

Well, except for the sheep willing to follow psychopaths and do their bidding.

Only to find out later, after being caught, that maybe they were mislead.






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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 29, 2022 10:01PM
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Blankity Blank
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deckeda
Oh and don’t forget the solid, all-black flag, i.e. “a nation in distress” (that their anarchy causes, but whatevs.)

More to the point, ”It means that they will not surrender, will not take prisoners, and are willing to die for their cause. It means they will execute their enemies. (Salon)

The natural devolution requires them to see extremes. We have them where I live. Like most small towns, they’re polite racists and polite anarchists because they aren’t challenged. Kabuki theater.
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: January 29, 2022 10:15PM
makes it easier to prove the case at conspiracy trials
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: jdc
Date: January 29, 2022 10:43PM
the first google hit, I bolded the problem:

What does The Punisher symbol mean?
Besides honor and determination, the Punisher himself and his emblem represent unbound aggression and destruction. Jan 7, 2022

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texas, III%, female, bloody, etc etc -- all negative connotations, not "honor"

While were are air u I dont effing get the back the blue





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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: January 30, 2022 06:59AM
Misappropriated as a Totenkopf in the best tradition of the SS.
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 30, 2022 07:47AM
dont effing get the back the blue

Oh that’s easy. With that one you get to pick among:

1) police inherently cannot do wrong because they are authority

2) police have disproportionally targeted minorities for a variety of reasons both directly and indirectly. But so long as it’s “not me” they target, all is swell.

It’s a backlash. Someone complains, and so the zero-sum crowd becomes incensed that someone complains. We saw our fair share of that right here in this forum summer of 2020.
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 30, 2022 08:56AM
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deckeda
dont effing get the back the blue

Oh that’s easy. With that one you get to pick among:

1) police inherently cannot do wrong because they are authority

2) police have disproportionally targeted minorities for a variety of reasons both directly and indirectly. But so long as it’s “not me” they target, all is swell.

3) I will beat a cop's skull in with a fire extinguisher in the nation's capitol, and still claim to "back the blue."

Because what it really means is that I will back the blue as long as they are only beating the blacks (and browns).



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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: January 30, 2022 10:17AM
This says it all. Any cop that uses it needs to be fired and banned from Law Enforcement.




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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 30, 2022 11:00AM
Google lasd gangs.
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 30, 2022 11:11AM
If I were a bumper-sticker sort of person, I might have one indicating, “Gerry Conway called out your asinine usage of his Punisher character.”
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 30, 2022 03:40PM
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cbelt3
Misappropriated as a Totenkopf in the best tradition of the SS.

You liken a SEAL Team to the SS?



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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: gabester
Date: January 30, 2022 05:10PM
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deckeda
If I were a bumper-sticker sort of person, I might have one indicating, “Gerry Conway called out your asinine usage of his Punisher character.”

Sounds like the appropriate combination of bumper stickers would be a No symbol over the punisher skull with Cap's shield next to it.



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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: Sam3
Date: January 31, 2022 04:58AM
And yet Disney, who sued day care centers for painting Mickey Mouse-like graphics on their walls, has decided no to be litigious to reign in the misappropriation of this skull symbol.

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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: January 31, 2022 10:21AM
The Punisher shows how much of a total badass, hard ass character you are. Mostly, they are on the rear windows of jeeps around here, coincidentally, those cars are driven by some of the biggest a$shole drivers one can imagine. And coincidentally, some of those same vehicles are driven by members of the Blue Tribe, although there are a fair amount of wannabes.
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Re: The Punisher skull image - does it exist solely so @#$%& can identify each other?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 31, 2022 11:44AM
Both LAPD & LASD contain blue gangs that have adopted the symbol.
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