Obviously, with things as they are and the Russkie cutoff in effect, the price of gas is going to escalate.

The Biden administration and the Dems in Congress must be on the air every day reminding Americans that they are sacrificing on behalf of the Ukranians, who are being blown apart and murdered by Putin.

It's a time to remind Americans that patriotic actions are worthwhile and they should subdue their bitching because they asked us to stop the Russian oil, gas and coal. It's time to take one for the team.

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It's a time to remind Americans that patriotic actions are worthwhile and they should subdue their bitching because they asked us to stop the Russian oil, gas and coal. It's time to take one for the team.

Agreed … but …

Fox will be there every day to say it's Biden's fault - and that the dems don't care one whit about it.

It's the Republicans who SHOULD be on the air promoting the sacrifice to be be made. Of course it is in their partisan interest to scream CUT RUSSIAN OIL without ever mentioning the effects here.

Wouldn't it be nice if the oil companies helped out too, maybe cutting their profits for the duration.

You're awfully optimistic.

I find it amazing how much people's sense of well being is tied to gas prices. But there's a lot I don't understand about people.

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A client in Texas said gas was up $2, so biden should be tossed out, or something along those lines.

I told him that if gas prices were the only metric he used to rate a presidents job performance, he might want to broaden his mind a little.

clearly another person that doesn't remember the 70s gas crises or odd/even fueling days... or stations with signs saying "no gas".

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A client in Texas said gas was up $2, so biden should be tossed out, or something along those lines.

I told him that if gas prices were the only metric he used to rate a presidents job performance, he might want to broaden his mind a little.

clearly another person that doesn't remember the 70s gas crises or odd/even fueling days... or stations with signs saying "no gas".

I remember those days, and turning the oil furnace down, and only running christmas lights until 9pm, instead of all night.

A lot of musclecars got crushed back then, just because of gas prices.

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"The 1973 oil crisis or first oil crisis began in October 1973 when the members of the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries led by Saudi Arabia proclaimed an oil embargo. The embargo was targeted at nations that had supported Israel during the Yom Kippur War. The initial nations targeted were Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the United States with the embargo also later extended to Portugal, Rhodesia and South Africa. By the end of the embargo in March 1974, the price of oil had risen nearly 300%, from US$3 per barrel... to nearly $12 per barrel... globally; US prices were significantly higher. The embargo caused an oil crisis, or 'shock', with many short- and long-term effects on global politics and the global economy. It was later called the 'first oil shock', followed by the 1979 oil crisis, termed the 'second oil shock'".

President in October 1973 = Richard Nixon

President in 1979 = Jimmy Carter

If I hear Keystone one more time. I'm going to douse myself in gas and strike match (luckily I can't afford the gas)

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From Paul Krugman’s latest NYT column:

[The US doesn’t import that much oil from Russia; we’ll find other sources on the world market to buy oil, and Russia will probably find other buyers too, so…]

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Overall, then, the Putin-made energy crisis will be serious but probably not catastrophic. My biggest concern for the United States, at least, is political. You mightn’t think that Republicans could simultaneously demand that we stop buying Russian oil and attack President Biden for high gasoline prices. That is, you mightn’t think that if you’d spent the past 25 years sleeping in a cave. In fact, that’s exactly what’s about to happen.

Ehh, politics. Viewed through a purely political lens, Biden was probably smart to wait until there was widespread public and political demand to stop buying Russian oil. He’ll still be blamed for yet higher gas prices, but he can at least say I told you this would be painful, but we felt as a country it was the right thing to do.

If we have learned anything over the last 80 years of American politics, it's that the voting public only cares about their financial stake. Everything else is a distant second.

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If we have learned anything over the last 80 years of American politics, it's that the voting public only cares about their financial stake. Everything else is a distant second.

But why do so many vote against their own self interests? Something I ask every election…

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If I hear Keystone one more time. I'm going to douse myself in gas and strike match (luckily I can't afford the gas)

Ah.. Keystone. A pipeline that was never built, for 'Oil Sands' in Canada that are not productive.

Really just an opportunity for a new grift.

In the mean time a number of oil and gasoline (!) pipelines around the US are far past their useful life and are leaking and failing. Because the companies that own them have not been maintaining them.

And let's talk about the Climate Change Elephant in the oil room.

The Aleskaya Alaska pipeline is slowly breaking down because 'permafrost'... is no longer permanent. That's half a million barrels a day... and 9 million barrels that fills the pipeline from start to end. (no, it won't all leak out, there are safety procedures in place).

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If I hear Keystone one more time. I'm going to douse myself in gas and strike match (luckily I can't afford the gas)

You mean the Magic Pipeline?

The one that was going to provide thousands of jobs, end energy dependency, cure cancer, and lead the Vikings to a Super Bowl victory?

(just kidding on the last part, obviously)

Just a reminder, oil companies sell off any excess inventory of gasoline whenever it accumulates. It ensures there isn't anything to prevent prices spiking as fast as possible, which insures maximum profits.

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House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on Wednesday sought to pin the blame on President Biden for high gasoline prices, though experts say that presidents can only have a limited impact on the global market.

During a press conference on Wednesday, McCarthy said “the main reason Americans are paying so much is bad domestic policies,” while acknowledging that oil is an international market.

“These aren't Putin prices," he said, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who launched an invasion of Ukraine nearly two weeks ago. "They're President Biden's prices.”

Bad domestic policies alright. We should have had a plan in place to get off big oil's teet a generation ago.

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Bad domestic policies alright. We should have had a plan in place to get off big oil's teet a generation ago.

You'd first need a plan to keep "drill, baby drill" out of power.

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The video from Climate Town that will come AFTER this one is most relevant to this topic. (Although, some topics such as Keystone and Biden are mentioned more than once, due to the ridiculousness of certain politics.)

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^^ In the meantime, you get to see how American oil companies are doing juuuuust fine, regardless of production. Sports fans will note the frequent examples provided therein.

Fact checkers are busy at work, but they have a lot of political BS to counteract.

First, a graph:



See that teensy little purple edge at the bottom of the graph? That’s the oil we import from Russia. We’ll never miss it. Unfortunately, they won’t miss the sales too much either, unless other countries join in and stop buying.

US production took a dive in 2019 due to COVID-related decreased demand (and a resulting collapse in prices). It’s been heading back up ever since then.

Regarding Keystone, there are a wealth of fact-check articles out there to confirm the following:

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First, the Keystone XL pipeline…was meant to expand the flow from Alberta to Steele City, Neb., but the full route from Alberta to the Gulf Coast has been completed. The issue was not whether oil from Alberta should come into the United States at all but how much. Even without XL, some of what isn’t transported by the existing pipeline is shipped by rail.

There are three existing Keystone pipelines from Canada into the US. The fourth, Keystone XL, was only going to ease delivery of the environmentally (and quality-wise) worst form of oil, heavy tar-sand oil to the US, mostly for export to other countries (see below).

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Second, imports of crude oil from Canada have doubled since the beginning of 2008 — even without the expanded pipeline.

There is an excess of ways to move oil from Canada, (other pipelines, rail, etc) and the lack of Keystone XL (which was not going to be done until 2023 at the earliest) is not limiting imports from Canada.

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Third, not all of the oil flowing into the United States was going to be refined and sold here. Much of the oil from Alberta was intended to go to the Gulf Coast, where there’s a lot of refining capacity. But part of the plan was also to then ship refined oil out of the country through the Gulf of Mexico. (About two-thirds of refined products on the Gulf Coast are exported.)

In 2017, the Trump State Department stated that approving Keystone XL would have only a “minimal” effect on the price of refined petroleum products — meaning primarily gasoline — since gas prices are largely driven by “global market factors.”

Mostly a post-pandemic recovery of demand, without (yet) an increase in oil pumped throughout the world.

In other words, the GOP talking points are all BS. But you can’t be surprised at them trying - it’s mostly what they try to sell people these days.

Republicans Wrongly Blame Biden for Rising Gas Prices

Politifact: Oil production in Biden’s first year on par with Trump

Ex-Obama Adviser Fact-Checks Fox Anchor on Keystone XL

Forbes: The Real Reason Behind Surging Gas Prices

And don't forget there's a history of recessions following an "oil shock" like we're currently experiencing.