‘ Guns became the leading cause of death among children and teens in 2020, killing more people ages 1 to 19 in the U.S. than vehicle crashes, drugs overdoses or cancer.

More than 4,300 died of firearm-related injuries that year — a 29 percent increase from 2019 — according to a research letter published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine. The letter analyzed decades of mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"In the last 40 years, and almost certainly before that, this is the first time that firearm injuries have surpassed motor vehicle crashes among kids," said a co-author of the letter, Jason Goldstick, a research associate professor at the University of Michigan. ‘


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"Obviously, the solution is to get rid of children and teens"
-the Gunhuggers

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Steve G.
"Obviously, the solution is to get rid of children and teens"
-the Gunhuggers

That's where the guns come in.

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It is what it is.

Cars are getting safer.

Guns, not so much.

Thats b/c none of the kids were armed. Duh.

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Is there a downward trend in deaths due to vehicle crashes in this age group? And what is the precise trend in firearm deaths?

Fits right in their lunchbox with room for Oreos!

That's not a bad price for that Shield, especially considering the integrated Crimson Trace Laser.

It wasn't cheap for me to add one to one of my SIGs.

Still not a fan of an enclosed hammer though, but it looks interesting.

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I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.

I might get the ShieldEZ for my partner, she has some slight grip strength issues with her left hand, and the backstrap safety along with the thumb safety is appealing to her.

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“A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.” Seneca the Younger

The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)

Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Ca Bob
Is there a downward trend in deaths due to vehicle crashes in this age group? And what is the precise trend in firearm deaths?

Cars are getting safer.

Guns have never been more deadly.

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Racer X
I might get the ShieldEZ for my partner, she has some slight grip strength issues with her left hand, and the backstrap safety along with the thumb safety is appealing to her.

Cuz gunz is funz!



(Now transparently using every gun violence thread as a platform for discussing the pros and cons of acquiring and acquired weapons.)

Cuz gunz is funz!


Yes.

Yes, they are.

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I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.

Racer, I assume the weapon is pretty much close range only with the short barrel ?

My hands are kind of small, weak, and messed up. I had to sell the .44 Ruger super Blackhawk to a buddy. I can still use the S&W model 41, but a .22 isn’t much gun.

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RAMd®d
Cuz gunz is funz!


Yes.

Yes, they are.

None so blind as those who will not see.

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DeusxMac

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RAMd®d
Cuz gunz is funz!


Yes.

Yes, they are.

None so blind as those who will not see.

+1

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cbelt3
Racer, I assume the weapon is pretty much close range only with the short barrel ?

My hands are kind of small, weak, and messed up. I had to sell the .44 Ruger super Blackhawk to a buddy. I can still use the S&W model 41, but a .22 isn’t much gun.

3.8" barrel and 9mm. will easily get the job done. Most duty police sidearms these days are between 4 and 4.5" The Sig P229s you see on "NCIS" are 3.9" barrels for example.

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“A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.” Seneca the Younger

The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)

Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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here's the one you should have if the mall is crowded...

‘ 3.8" barrel and 9mm. will easily get the job done ‘

Who needs a long barrel when the gun is at the back of someone’s head?

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I prefer a flat shooting, accurate, weapon.

None so blind as those who will not see.

Right back atchya.



I prefer a flat shooting, accurate, weapon.


Range matters.

Out to 25yds, a quality 9mm or my preference .40cal fits that description.

When I shot PPC competitively, I used a 6" modded Model 27 Smith.

.38Spl wadcutter and 50yd targets (among other closer targets) were part of the drill, and holdover was significant.

With a SIG 226/229 in .40 with duty ammo, out to 25yds, holdover is negligible and it's easy to shoot very well on a range.

Practically speaking, 25yds would be probably be beyond a reasonable range, except in extreme circumstances.

For a flatter, more accurate weapon, I have a 700 Heavy bbl BDL in .308Win that I quite like.

That I haven't had near enough opportunity to shoot, but it's fun as well.

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I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.



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this thread is sooo American!

“That I haven't had near enough opportunity to shoot, but it's fun as well.”

Yes, my Saturday nights have been busy, too.

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Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.

Yes, my Saturday nights have been busy, too.


When working, quarterly night quals were mandatory, sometimes on weeknights, sometimes on weekend nights.

Years ago, SFPD regularly hosted a night shoot competition, I went on a weeknight.

All my recreational shooting was done in the light of day, mostly on Sundays.

We don't need to dance to the same music to have a good time.

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I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.