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Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: rgG
Date: May 09, 2022 03:47PM
I did not know that some people can relapse after taking Paxlovid.


Pfizer Inc. executives said patients who suffer a relapse in Covid-19 symptoms after taking a full course of Paxlovid should take more of the treatment, though current U.S. guidelines limit use to five consecutive days.

“Paxlovid does what it has to do: it reduces the viral load,” Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla said in an interview. “Then your body is supposed to do the job.” But for unknown reasons, the CEO said, some patients aren’t able to clear the virus with the first course of treatment.


I saw this after seeing that it has apparently happened to Stephen Colbert.





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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 09, 2022 03:51PM
PAXLOVID DO YOUR JOB!



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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 09, 2022 03:55PM
So, if guidelines say 5 days, once, how do you get a second 5 day course? I'm sure insurance won't go for that, even if your doc writes a second script.



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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: May 09, 2022 03:56PM
Not all immune systems work well. If they did, we wouldn’t need vaccines and anti-virals at all. Some people are finding that their immune system is great as they think it is without either of those helpers.



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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: rgG
Date: May 09, 2022 04:34PM
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Racer X
So, if guidelines say 5 days, once, how do you get a second 5 day course? I'm sure insurance won't go for that, even if your doc writes a second script.

Yeah, who knows how that will work.





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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: May 09, 2022 05:50PM
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rgG
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Racer X
So, if guidelines say 5 days, once, how do you get a second 5 day course? I'm sure insurance won't go for that, even if your doc writes a second script.

Yeah, who knows how that will work.


I am not sure about insurance. One can make a decision regarding the second dose weighed against cost at that point. How good is your immune system?



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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 09, 2022 06:41PM
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pRICE cUBE
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rgG
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Racer X
So, if guidelines say 5 days, once, how do you get a second 5 day course? I'm sure insurance won't go for that, even if your doc writes a second script.

Yeah, who knows how that will work.


I am not sure about insurance. One can make a decision regarding the second dose weighed against cost at that point. How good is your immune system?

dunno smiley never had covid.



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Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: PeterB
Date: May 09, 2022 07:03PM
I had already heard about this... the question is why it is happening-- if it is, as suggested above, that some folks' immune systems aren't fighting off the virus enough, or for other reasons.

What is concerning to me: through widespread use of this med, where it is maybe not being taken at the necessary doses or for a complete time course, we might be selecting for variants that are partially- or fully-resistant to the med. The possibility is definitely there:

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... if you don't knock down the virus enough, you're giving it a chance to "cook", and allowing for the development of additional mutations.




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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 09, 2022 07:25PM
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Racer X
dunno smiley never had covid.


...that you know of.
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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 09, 2022 07:51PM
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mattkime
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Racer X
dunno smiley never had covid.


...that you know of.

if I did, I must have a robust immune system, as nothing happened.



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The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)

Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: May 09, 2022 08:01PM
I wonder how many of those recurring cases involved taking Paxlovid outside the optimal window.



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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: Janit
Date: May 10, 2022 07:56AM
I would argue with your subject line for this post, as the phrasing suggests that people should not take Paxlovid because it causes more illness. It is more accurate to say that, for some people, Paxlovid treatment is not enough to clear the virus. Hard to make a good sound bite out of that, I know.

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rgG
I did not know that some people can relapse after taking Paxlovid.


Pfizer Inc. executives said patients who suffer a relapse in Covid-19 symptoms after taking a full course of Paxlovid should take more of the treatment, though current U.S. guidelines limit use to five consecutive days.

“Paxlovid does what it has to do: it reduces the viral load,” Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla said in an interview. “Then your body is supposed to do the job.” But for unknown reasons, the CEO said, some patients aren’t able to clear the virus with the first course of treatment.


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Re: Paxlovid can cause recurrence
Posted by: rgG
Date: May 10, 2022 10:00AM
I agree. I didn't really know how to phrase it in just a few words, so I did the best I could.

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Janit
I would argue with your subject line for this post, as the phrasing suggests that people should not take Paxlovid because it causes more illness. It is more accurate to say that, for some people, Paxlovid treatment is not enough to clear the virus. Hard to make a good sound bite out of that, I know.

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rgG
I did not know that some people can relapse after taking Paxlovid.


Pfizer Inc. executives said patients who suffer a relapse in Covid-19 symptoms after taking a full course of Paxlovid should take more of the treatment, though current U.S. guidelines limit use to five consecutive days.

“Paxlovid does what it has to do: it reduces the viral load,” Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla said in an interview. “Then your body is supposed to do the job.” But for unknown reasons, the CEO said, some patients aren’t able to clear the virus with the first course of treatment.


I saw this after seeing that it has apparently happened to Stephen Colbert.





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