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who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 18, 2022 04:01PM
can't afford that semi-automatic firearm? Maybe you just want something with less bang. In any case Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine has signed legislation that blocks cities from passing laws that block citizens from carrying knives.

The new laws list of weapons allowed for manufacturing, sale and concealed carry includes brass knuckles, cestuses (a spiked glove), billy clubs, blackjacks, sandbags, switchblade knives, spring blade knives, gravity knives, and similar weapons.



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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 18, 2022 06:12PM
Libertarian paradise! It's not just for Somalia any more!
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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 18, 2022 07:08PM
I can finally own a switchblade ?

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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 18, 2022 09:27PM
This can only end well. RollingEyesSmiley5



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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: June 19, 2022 01:29AM
It's a worse crime to illegally carry a switchblade here than your basic Glock 17/Sig P226.

Who knew?

Time to put the Benchmade back in the drawer, and the Walther into the waistband.... cool smiley
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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 19, 2022 04:37AM
Time to put the Benchmade back in the drawer


My Benchmade isn't a switch blade, but it's thumb operated, so it's street legal in CA.






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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 19, 2022 04:48AM
The new laws list of weapons allowed for manufacturing, sale and concealed carry includes brass knuckles, cestuses (a spiked glove), billy clubs, blackjacks, sandbags, switchblade knives, spring blade knives, gravity knives, and similar weapons.


That is just insane.

Many of those are defined as 'prohibited weapons' in CA, illegal to own, let alone carry.


This can only end well.


Yeah, there will probably be subsequent legislation passed to allow 'shall carry' firearms.

You know, to protect one from all the people now carrying brass knuckles, cestuses (a spiked glove), billy clubs, blackjacks, sandbags, switchblade knives, spring blade knives, gravity knives, and similar weapons.

Yeah, that can only end well.

Seriously, there must be something missing in all that.

Maybe only allowing manufacturing but not possession in public, concealed or not?

Or we're back to insanity.






I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: $tevie
Date: June 19, 2022 10:28PM
These people are writing laws to placate a bunch of yahoos.
That is not what laws are supposed to be for.
This country is going to hell. Fast.



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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 20, 2022 01:28AM
This country is going to hell. Fast.


I've heard that for decades, growing up, in response to some change, usually having some liberal lean.

And somebody always pipes up with saying 'I've heard that for decades'...

But this is nothing like those who complained over those decades, could have ever imagined.

Saying this is worrisome is an understatement.

The idea of some states 'rounding up' those who 'just don't fit in' almost seems like an actual possibility.






I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: June 21, 2022 05:53AM
Quote
RAMd®d
This country is going to hell. Fast.


I've heard that for decades, growing up, in response to some change, usually having some liberal lean.

And somebody always pipes up with saying 'I've heard that for decades'...

But this is nothing like those who complained over those decades, could have ever imagined.

Saying this is worrisome is an understatement.

The idea of some states 'rounding up' those who 'just don't fit in' almost seems like an actual possibility.


Now *that's* a much better justification for an AR-15 than shooting innocent kids at a school.

While I have a bunch of pocketknives, mostly w/ 3" blades, or under, you make a good argument for perhaps optioning the EDC to one of the few that are closer to 4" blades. I've got a couple of assisted open (Ken Onion) Kershaws that'll work, the red one has a coated drop point serrated blade, and the space gray one has a Damascus Tanto point plain blade, so it's too purdy for EDC. I wish the points/styles could be swapped-- a coated Tanto point serrated blade would be my ideal EDC for those.

And you're sure right about thumb operation, especially the assisted open kind. The bigger Kershaws are easier to operate (for me anyway) because of their size, and w/ their heavier spring they snap open as well as most switchblades. Plus, the opening thumb stud is ergonomically located. The push button on the smaller Benchmade automatic is recessed, and not as ergonomically positioned, yet for reasons that escape, is illegal without a permit.
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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 21, 2022 10:36PM
Now *that's* a much better justification for an AR-15...


I can understand that interpretation, but that is absolutely not offered as such.

My 'EDC' knife is a Benchmade Barrage thumb operated spring-assisted with a 3.75" drop-point serrated blade.

Serrations will make short work of a seat belt or moderately thick line, where a straight blade struggles.

But for me a knife is a tool, and certainly a last ditch self-defense weapon.

As an instructor once pointed out, a knife fighter is a one-handed fighter.






I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 22, 2022 04:48PM
I use my Swiss Army knife frequently. The screwdrivers get most of the use but the item I use almost daily is the plastic toothpick. I’ve thinned it on a bench grinder so it slips in between most of my teeth and is mostly unbreakable.



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Re: who brings a knife to a gun fight?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: June 23, 2022 04:07AM
I find the 8x magnifier on my old school SAK Explorer invaluable for quick checks of negatives/transparencies when I am scanning. In the past, the scissors were used to cut up film strips.

But for one handed use, a well-tuned Kershaw spring-assist flipper is my go-to daily carry knife. I keep a SAK Champion in my car.



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