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Re: Amazon reviews for The Boys turning into a political forum - WOKE!! Date: June 19, 2022 04:54AM |
I never thought the concept of being woke was a negative
Nor I, but it's been slung around as invective for some time now.
I saw a comment about a military movie with a woman lead, and wow!
The whining about 'another WOKE strong woman movie'.
It was not a positive comment in anyway.
Obviously there are a lot of demographics that still consider women as second class citizens, if not outright a subservient species.
I am that Masked Man.
Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.
Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.
I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.
We are a government of laws, not men.
Everybody counts or nobody counts.
When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.
You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.
There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.
We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive
An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.
You make me pull, I'll put you down.
I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
Nor I, but it's been slung around as invective for some time now.
I saw a comment about a military movie with a woman lead, and wow!
The whining about 'another WOKE strong woman movie'.
It was not a positive comment in anyway.
Obviously there are a lot of demographics that still consider women as second class citizens, if not outright a subservient species.
I am that Masked Man.
Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.
Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.
I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.
We are a government of laws, not men.
Everybody counts or nobody counts.
When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.
You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.
There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.
We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive
An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.
You make me pull, I'll put you down.
I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Amazon reviews for The Boys turning into a political forum - WOKE!! Date: June 19, 2022 12:26PM |
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RAMd®d
I never thought the concept of being woke was a negative
Nor I, but it's been slung around as invective for some time now...
"Woke" caught on in black communities as an ironic description of self-aggrandizing white folks who praised themselves for being aware of black civil rights issues without actually doing anything to help.
Now, it's commonly used simply to mean someone who is aware of racism and racist institutions, or alert to social injustices.
Apparently, "aware of social injustice" is the greatest insult a republican can sling.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/19/2022 12:29PM by Tiangou.
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Re: Amazon reviews for The Boys turning into a political forum - WOKE!! Date: June 19, 2022 04:16PM |
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Lemon Drop
"Woke" caught on in black communities as an ironic description of self-aggrandizing white folks who ....."
No....
May be used that way NOW sometimes. But "Stay woke" dates from at least the 1930s and is from African American Vernacular English....
That's not slang. It's being used to mean "alert" or "awake" there. Synonyms.
The OED is not much use when you're looking up 21st century slang.
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Re: Amazon reviews for The Boys turning into a political forum - WOKE!! Date: June 19, 2022 05:33PM |
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Lemon Drop
I never refer to Black English as "slang."
Might try to stay away from that phrase.
It's slang, or if you want to sound erudite it's AAVE.
Using the phrase "Black English" is an insult in many places. It's a code-switching problem where some uses by some people in some contexts are probably fine, but many white folks use it to imply that the target is uneducated or unintelligent, so unless you're very confident that you're using it correctly with the right audience I suggest that you pick a substitute word or phrase.
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Re: Amazon reviews for The Boys turning into a political forum - WOKE!! Date: June 19, 2022 07:31PM |
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Lemon Drop
Bless your heart.
Here is something for your cultural education...
Sure. Go ahead and use that phrase when you're a professional linguist.
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Re: Amazon reviews for The Boys turning into a political forum - WOKE!! Date: June 19, 2022 10:24PM |
This wins a blue ribbon for most pedantic thread in the history of the forum.
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Re: Amazon reviews for The Boys turning into a political forum - WOKE!! Date: June 20, 2022 09:35AM |
[gizmodo.com]
You can say a lot of things about Amazon’s The Boys, but you can’t exactly call it subtle. The show, based on Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson’s acclaimed comics from Dynamite Entertainment, focuses on a group of corporate owned superheroes called The Seven, and a semi-covert group of average people named The Boys who’ve taken it upon themselves to kill the heroes. Across the show’s three seasons, it’s always been pretty upfront with the kind of satire it’s going for and who it tears down.
In the case of the show’s vengeful Superman-alike, Homelander (Anthony Starr), the show has said so many times in so many words that he was conceived as an analogue of former president Donald Trump. Season two even ended on him literally getting off to the idea of how much power he has over everyone else; and if that didn’t say it all, a cosplayer showing up as the character during a MAGA rally in 2020 would do the job. And should you have missed the text of the show, you’re in luck: showrunner Eric Kripke, Robertson, and even Starr himself have tried their damnedest to tell folks who Homelander really is...
Homelander is meant to represent “white male victimization and unchecked ambition.” It’s quite clear from reading the showrunner’s thoughts on his patriotic baddie that he has a lot of contempt for both the character and the former Head of State who inspired him, admitting that it was still surreal that Trump won the 2016 election in the first place. But much as Trump has informed the show’s chief antagonist, Kripke knows the satire doesn’t just end with this one man.
In the years since Trump’s election, more government officials have begun enacting racist, sexist, or transphobic laws just because they can, and in several cases, have been applauded for it. “The more awful public figures act, the more fans they seem to be getting,” acknowledged Kripke. “That’s a phenomenon that we wanted to explore, that Homelander is realizing that he can actually show them who he really is and they’ll love him for it.” With the show already locked in for another season, Kripke will certainly be exploring more of the monstrous boy scout’s depravity. If you still need more evidence about who the guy’s based on, you’ll certainly be getting it. Just be sure to pay attention this time.
You can say a lot of things about Amazon’s The Boys, but you can’t exactly call it subtle. The show, based on Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson’s acclaimed comics from Dynamite Entertainment, focuses on a group of corporate owned superheroes called The Seven, and a semi-covert group of average people named The Boys who’ve taken it upon themselves to kill the heroes. Across the show’s three seasons, it’s always been pretty upfront with the kind of satire it’s going for and who it tears down.
In the case of the show’s vengeful Superman-alike, Homelander (Anthony Starr), the show has said so many times in so many words that he was conceived as an analogue of former president Donald Trump. Season two even ended on him literally getting off to the idea of how much power he has over everyone else; and if that didn’t say it all, a cosplayer showing up as the character during a MAGA rally in 2020 would do the job. And should you have missed the text of the show, you’re in luck: showrunner Eric Kripke, Robertson, and even Starr himself have tried their damnedest to tell folks who Homelander really is...
Homelander is meant to represent “white male victimization and unchecked ambition.” It’s quite clear from reading the showrunner’s thoughts on his patriotic baddie that he has a lot of contempt for both the character and the former Head of State who inspired him, admitting that it was still surreal that Trump won the 2016 election in the first place. But much as Trump has informed the show’s chief antagonist, Kripke knows the satire doesn’t just end with this one man.
In the years since Trump’s election, more government officials have begun enacting racist, sexist, or transphobic laws just because they can, and in several cases, have been applauded for it. “The more awful public figures act, the more fans they seem to be getting,” acknowledged Kripke. “That’s a phenomenon that we wanted to explore, that Homelander is realizing that he can actually show them who he really is and they’ll love him for it.” With the show already locked in for another season, Kripke will certainly be exploring more of the monstrous boy scout’s depravity. If you still need more evidence about who the guy’s based on, you’ll certainly be getting it. Just be sure to pay attention this time.
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