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Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: samintx
Date: June 25, 2022 08:01AM
Yesterday was only a sample. Even if he never runs again his influence will remain….sadly. Not a Robert’s court. It is the Big Three Amigo court.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 25, 2022 08:09AM
Being 76 years old, and being as overweight as he is, I don't think the donald is going to make it that long.
And he's not that mentally capable already.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: June 25, 2022 08:11AM
Yep, I agree sam. We're about to find out if voters want a firewall between themselves and this extremist court, or not.

Their next demonic act is going to be the dismantling of federal environmental protections.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2022 08:12AM by Lemon Drop.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 25, 2022 08:17AM
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Lemon Drop
Yep, I agree sam. We're about to find out if voters want a firewall between themselves and this extremist court, or not.

Their next demonic act is going to be the dismantling of federal environmental protections.

Dismantling anything that gets in the way of increasing their wealth: environmental regulations, product safety, minimum wages, consumer protection, banking regulations, etc.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/25/2022 08:20AM by DeusxMac.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 25, 2022 08:39AM
The next priority is to rig the vote to disenfranchise demographics that vote anything left of center-right. I'm sure there's still work they'd like to do there.

The only hope is to expand the court, really, to dilute the lying extremists that have been installed. You'll never get enough of them to die or retire in time to save the progress we have had made, even more so when the country electoral college keeps handing the Presidency back to the Republicans every 4-8 years no matter how crappy the last Republican was.



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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: June 25, 2022 08:41AM
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DeusxMac
Being 76 years old, and being as overweight as he is, I don't think the donald is going to make it that long.
And he's not that mentally capable already.

Yep, when his doctor said "239 lbs." I think he transposed those last two digits.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: graylocks
Date: June 25, 2022 09:52AM
I had a friend in DC who used to work in government. He said it was going to take YEARS to undo what had been masterminded by the conservative Right in regards to judicial appointments. We had this conversation during the presidency of Bush II.

the reign of 45 and McConnell have made things exponentially worse.



"Success isn't about how much money you make. It is about the difference you make in people's lives."--Michelle Obama
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: samintx
Date: June 25, 2022 10:13AM
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Lemon Drop
Yep, I agree sam. We're about to find out if voters want a firewall between themselves and this extremist court, or not.

Their next demonic act is going to be the dismantling of federal environmental protections.

Why has interracial not been mentioned along with other laws to overturn? Answer me that, Justice Thomas?
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Rolando
Date: June 25, 2022 10:23AM
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samintx
Why has interracial not been mentioned along with other laws to overturn? Answer me that, Justice Thomas?

I did in another thread. I have no doubt its coming.



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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 25, 2022 10:57AM
SCOTUS will end up having to deal with Olgothorpe, Griswald and potentially Loving simple because of the Fifth Court of Appeals. A southern state will do something stupid in regards to those and the ultra-conservative fifth will uphold while other appeals court will overrule it. That sets up SCOTUS.

I really don't think the majority will overturn those. Thomas and Alito will vote too, but I don't see Roberts or KavBenGor going along (although Griswald is questionable)



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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: samintx
Date: June 25, 2022 01:47PM
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Rolando
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samintx
Why has interracial not been mentioned along with other laws to overturn? Answer me that, Justice Thomas?

I did in another thread. I have no doubt its coming.

Hello, 1900.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: chopper
Date: June 25, 2022 02:18PM
As a person who came from a multi generational Democrat family it pains me to vote red at times but I'm afraid there are few choices when every damn democrat seems intent on ramming some transgender bs on the world, or seriously screwing up even simple things. Trump was a response. That few seemed to learn from.

Until now.

Next: a democrat bloodbath in Nov.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: pdq
Date: June 25, 2022 02:45PM
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chopper
As a person who came from a multi generational Democrat family it pains me to vote red at times but I'm afraid there are few choices when every damn democrat seems intent on ramming some transgender bs on the world...

Believe it or not, Dems did not invent transgender people. Or gay people.

We just decline to persecute them.

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Next: a democrat bloodbath in Nov.

Don't be so sure. Maybe you haven't been following the news lately.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: graylocks
Date: June 25, 2022 02:54PM
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pdq
Don't be so sure. Maybe you haven't been following the news lately.

I am so hoping that both decisions this week creates a freaking Blue tsunami in November. Alas, I fear it will be like Sandy Hook when I thought something so horrendous would surely lead to meaningful gun law changes. It didn't.



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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 25, 2022 03:42PM
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chopper
As a person who came from a multi generational Democrat family it pains me to vote red at times but I'm afraid there are few choices when every damn democrat seems intent on ramming some transgender bs on the world, or seriously screwing up even simple things. Trump was a response. That few seemed to learn from.

Until now.

Next: a democrat bloodbath in Nov.

It seems to me that transgender discussion in the news is a fairly recent thing, not necessarily something Democrats have been ramming for years. So, I looked at google.



As you can see, there was a rather abrupt increase in searches around 2015. Hmm. What would have suddenly got people buzzing? It just so happens it correlates with Caitlyn Jenner's transition.



Caitlyn Jenner, coincidentally, is a Republican.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: pdq
Date: June 25, 2022 04:35PM
So, I have a guy I play hockey with, and he told me he was upset because the local NHL team had a night benefiting the local Children's group at the University of Minnesota. He was upset because among the million other things they do, they have a transgender clinic for kids and their parents.

As far as I know, they won't do transgender surgery on a possibly transgender minor, but in rare kids, they may give them puberty blockers, which delays the secondary sexual characteristics (breasts, penis enlargement, hair, etc) that can be seriously troubling for these kids as they turn into adults of what they don't identify with. It's not permanent - if they go off blockers, puberty happens. But this gives them some time to (mentally and age-wise) become adults so they can make any big decision then.

And this, I think, is the difference between Dems and Repubs. Some of the latter consider this child abuse, and several states have legislation pending or in place that defines it as just that; some have called for the imprisonment of such parents and/or the state taking custody of their children.

They don't give these kids puberty blockers just because the parents wanted a boy and got a girl or vice versa; these kids are often suicidal because they feel trapped in a body of the opposite sex, and these rare cases are supervised by a team of highly trained specialists.

Not to dump on chopper (above), but Dems are not "ramming" anything. They're standing back while medical professionals try to do what's best for these kids based on current understanding.

Is it the best thing? I dunno - but I'm pretty sure the angry talkers on radio don't know either. But GOP politicians want us to consider this child abuse by the doctors, and by the parents who are trying to do the best for the child that they love who feels trapped. And it's become one of this year's red meat items to rile people up.

I dunno - I just don't get it.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 25, 2022 05:52PM
Thread has wandered pretty far, but for the record...

"The DSM-5 indicates that the prevalence of g e n d e r*X dysphoria is 0.005-0.014% for adult born as males, whereas it is 0.002-0.003% for adult born as females."

If my math is correct, that's:
- from 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 714 for those born male
- from 1 in 5,000 to 1 in 3,333 for those born female

For reference:
- Spina bifida = 1 in 2,758 births
- Pulmonary valve atresia and stenosis = 1 in 1,052 births
- Trisomy 21 (Down syndrome) = 1 in 707 births


[www.cdc.gov]


*Apparently "g e n d e r" is a banned word on the forum.
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Fritz
Date: June 26, 2022 08:18AM
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DeusxMac
Dismantling anything that gets in the way of increasing their wealth: environmental regulations, product safety, minimum wages, consumer protection, banking regulations, etc.

this is the crazy thing. where do they think they're going to spend it all when they hit dirt?
A bit like Twilight Zone The Rip Van Winkle Caper.



!#$@@$#!





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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 26, 2022 10:56AM
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chopper
every damn democrat seems intent on ramming some transgender bs on the world, or seriously screwing up even simple things.

Could you be more specific? What exactly are you complaining about?



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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: Rolando
Date: June 26, 2022 09:00PM
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mattkime
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chopper
every damn democrat seems intent on ramming some transgender bs on the world, or seriously screwing up even simple things.

Could you be more specific? What exactly are you complaining about?

I think the fact that TG persons are in the news/society at a rate 1,000s of times more than, using DeusxMac's numbers, persons with Spina bifida, Pulmonary valve atresia and stenosis, or Trisomy.



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"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
“Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Eli Weisel

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"I don’t want to see religious bigotry in any form. It would disturb me if there was a wedding between the religious fundamentalists and the political right. The hard right has no interest in religion except to manipulate it." - Billy Graham 1981

"Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise" - Barry Goldwater
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Re: Trump will be with us for decades and decades,,,,,,,
Posted by: pdq
Date: June 27, 2022 01:47AM
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Rolando
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mattkime
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chopper
every damn democrat seems intent on ramming some transgender bs on the world, or seriously screwing up even simple things.

Could you be more specific? What exactly are you complaining about?

I think the fact that TG persons are in the news/society at a rate 1,000s of times more than, using DeusxMac's numbers, persons with Spina bifida, Pulmonary valve atresia and stenosis, or Trisomy.

Well, just to be clear, while it certainly may be true that they’re in the news more often, oftentimes it’s because they’ve been the subject of discrimination, bullying, or assault, which may not befall those with the other conditions as often.

But as he shows, folks affected with gen der dysphoria are probably fewer in number than folks with those other conditions.
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