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Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: July 31, 2022 07:17AM
People shot so far today. Sunday 7/31

Sunday 7/31
1:45a 600 E 51st, Grand Boulevard, F/30
2:10a 4700 S Kedzie, Brighton Park, M/16
2:10a 4700 S Kedzie, Brighton Park, F/19
2:30a 3600 N Pulaski, Irving Park, M/49
2:50a 2300 W 18th, Lower West Side, M/27
2:50a 13100 S Ellis, Riverdale, M/?
2:50a 13100 S Ellis, Riverdale, M/25
3:15a 2200 N Kostner, Hermosa, M/36
4:10a 5900 W Grand, Belmont Cragin, M/40
4:20a 7800 S Essex, South Shore, M/63
5:55a 6900 S Talman, Chicago Lawn, M/?
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: July 31, 2022 07:25AM
Also a mass shooting this morning in Detroit. 7 people shot. The shooter used a hand gun, has been arrested. Let me know if anyone sees any news coverage on it outside of local
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: July 31, 2022 08:28AM
Unsurprisingly, here is the "source ."

[heyjackass.com]

Unclear if these are reports of shots fired, injuries, definitely most are not homicides.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: gadje
Date: July 31, 2022 09:02AM
So sad.

I can’t help but point out that Mr645 blamed Biden for many problems in this country but it is Trump ang his GOP that are against any form of gun control. I mean any form.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2022 10:28AM by gadje.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 31, 2022 10:02AM
What does shootings in Chicago have to do with anything? You're just being desperate.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: July 31, 2022 10:15AM
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vision63
What does shootings in Chicago have to do with anything? You're just being desperate.

Politics? Obama's home town
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: July 31, 2022 10:16AM
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Lemon Drop
Unsurprisingly, here is the "source ."

[heyjackass.com]

Unclear if these are reports of shots fired, injuries, definitely most are not homicides.

The list is of people treated medically for gun shot wounds
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 31, 2022 10:26AM

why are you deflecting from the REAL issues?
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 31, 2022 10:28AM
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Mr645
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vision63
What does shootings in Chicago have to do with anything? You're just being desperate.

Politics? Obama's home town

That's no answer to the question I asked.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: gadje
Date: July 31, 2022 10:30AM
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vision63
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Mr645
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vision63
What does shootings in Chicago have to do with anything? You're just being desperate.

Politics? Obama's home town

That's no answer to the question I asked.

Did you expect a reasonable answer?
smiley-laughing001
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: July 31, 2022 11:39AM
Why not focus on his real birthplace, Kenya? RollingEyesSmiley5



In tha 360. MRF User Map
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: July 31, 2022 11:41AM
or Ted Cruz's hometown of Cancun, Canada?
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: July 31, 2022 12:03PM
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Steve G.

why are you deflecting from the REAL issues?

is that for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, The Sequel?
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: July 31, 2022 12:40PM
I get it, for their lives to matter they need to be shot by a white guy with a rifle, or a cop.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: July 31, 2022 12:41PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Why not focus on his real birthplace, Kenya? RollingEyesSmiley5

Are you sure? Did you see his birth certificate? Some people say he was born in the US territory of Hawaii
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 31, 2022 02:12PM
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Mr645
I get it, for their lives to matter they need to be shot by a white guy with a rifle, or a cop.

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Mr645
I get it, for their lives to matter they need to be shot by a white guy with a rifle, or a cop.

You're trying to sell that their lives matter to you. Citing Chicago's shootings are just a handy rationalization to deflect. It's what you got and you're using it.

If you seek to address urban despair, dysfunction and how a handful of the Black residents of Chicago Southside solve their conflicts, then address that. Since you're not doing that, what makes you qualified to paint those that focus on police led brutality as being hypocritical? Which is basically your point.

I'm not saying you're not interested in solving problems or addressing complicated concerns. Citing shootings as a counter to the folk your debating's arguments doesn't do it. They don't feel like hypocrites. They're sad, angry and frustrated.

You know who gets to do it? Me. Because I genuinely care about "all" Black lives and have spent my whole life elevating Black achievement, Black safety, Black love, Black economics and Black power. You know who else gets to do it? You, if you're genuine and care. In the big scheme of things, guns are not the overriding problem. There's a certain percentage of the population that are suffering deep problems that won't just go away if guns were to disappear. But we can't get "to" that properly, if Republicans won't at least help implement commons sense gun legislation.

I'm pro law enforcement, because Black people need safety and protection. I always have been and I always will be. It's critical that we improve the relationship between the police and the citizens that pay good money for their services vis-a-vis Black lives and law enforcement. Most Black people believe it or not, don't truck with criminals.

My father's youngest (and only surviving sibling) brother, my Uncle Freddy lives Southside and I have a great time when I visit him. I also engage with Chicago PD every chance I get. They have tons of great officers.



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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: July 31, 2022 03:44PM
You've just blown up his mind.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: July 31, 2022 03:48PM
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Carnos Jax
You've just blown up his mind.

Nah, too much reading required for that to happen (but pictures do help him).
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: July 31, 2022 04:35PM
Great post and great pics.

Thanks for that.






I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: August West
Date: July 31, 2022 08:35PM
Nice, vision.



“There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why they’re falling in."
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: gadje
Date: July 31, 2022 09:30PM
well written v63

Did you take those pictures? amazing.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 01, 2022 09:07AM
Ditto to the above.

Thank you for your voice friend.

Love the Girl Scout and the proud folks in blue.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Randalls
Date: August 01, 2022 09:59AM
I also might add that being a Hoosier I regret that Indiana has the loosest gun laws north of Texas and acts as a funnel for illegal weapons being shipped to the Chicago criminals from Indiana. Also, thanks to our Republican super majority (and against law enforcements wishes) the populace here can now carry firearms without any license or background check. Money talks and it will not allow proper legislation for background checks and proper registration. We are the gas on the fire.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/01/2022 10:02AM by Randalls.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 01, 2022 10:36AM
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Randalls
We are the gas on the fire.

Thanks Randalls. While that's true for Indiana and a number of other states, there has been a good deal of progress these past few years on new gun control legislation. Which is what the people, including most Republicans, want. We have to keep going.

New federal and state gun control laws passed in 2022:
[www.kcra.com]
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: August 01, 2022 02:11PM
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vision63
Quote
Mr645
I get it, for their lives to matter they need to be shot by a white guy with a rifle, or a cop.

Quote
Mr645
I get it, for their lives to matter they need to be shot by a white guy with a rifle, or a cop.

You're trying to sell that their lives matter to you. Citing Chicago's shootings are just a handy rationalization to deflect. It's what you got and you're using it.

If you seek to address urban despair, dysfunction and how a handful of the Black residents of Chicago Southside solve their conflicts, then address that. Since you're not doing that, what makes you qualified to paint those that focus on police led brutality as being hypocritical? Which is basically your point.

I'm not saying you're not interested in solving problems or addressing complicated concerns. Citing shootings as a counter to the folk your debating's arguments doesn't do it. They don't feel like hypocrites. They're sad, angry and frustrated.

You know who gets to do it? Me. Because I genuinely care about "all" Black lives and have spent my whole life elevating Black achievement, Black safety, Black love, Black economics and Black power. You know who else gets to do it? You, if you're genuine and care. In the big scheme of things, guns are not the overriding problem. There's a certain percentage of the population that are suffering deep problems that won't just go away if guns were to disappear. But we can't get "to" that properly, if Republicans won't at least help implement commons sense gun legislation.

I'm pro law enforcement, because Black people need safety and protection. I always have been and I always will be. It's critical that we improve the relationship between the police and the citizens that pay good money for their services vis-a-vis Black lives and law enforcement. Most Black people believe it or not, don't truck with criminals.

My father's youngest (and only surviving sibling) brother, my Uncle Freddy lives Southside and I have a great time when I visit him. I also engage with Chicago PD every chance I get. They have tons of great officers.




I truly feel for the folks that have to live in the areas such as Garfield Park or Austin. If you really cared about improving these areas, we need change. In my opinion, we need greater economic opportunity for young adults growing up there, we need better educational support, and a stronger police presence. Trumps economic opportunity zones I thought were a great idea, but the mayor and leadership has truly failed the city
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: August 01, 2022 02:12PM
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vision63
Quote
Mr645
I get it, for their lives to matter they need to be shot by a white guy with a rifle, or a cop.

Quote
Mr645
I get it, for their lives to matter they need to be shot by a white guy with a rifle, or a cop.

You're trying to sell that their lives matter to you. Citing Chicago's shootings are just a handy rationalization to deflect. It's what you got and you're using it.

If you seek to address urban despair, dysfunction and how a handful of the Black residents of Chicago Southside solve their conflicts, then address that. Since you're not doing that, what makes you qualified to paint those that focus on police led brutality as being hypocritical? Which is basically your point.

I'm not saying you're not interested in solving problems or addressing complicated concerns. Citing shootings as a counter to the folk your debating's arguments doesn't do it. They don't feel like hypocrites. They're sad, angry and frustrated.

You know who gets to do it? Me. Because I genuinely care about "all" Black lives and have spent my whole life elevating Black achievement, Black safety, Black love, Black economics and Black power. You know who else gets to do it? You, if you're genuine and care. In the big scheme of things, guns are not the overriding problem. There's a certain percentage of the population that are suffering deep problems that won't just go away if guns were to disappear. But we can't get "to" that properly, if Republicans won't at least help implement commons sense gun legislation.

I'm pro law enforcement, because Black people need safety and protection. I always have been and I always will be. It's critical that we improve the relationship between the police and the citizens that pay good money for their services vis-a-vis Black lives and law enforcement. Most Black people believe it or not, don't truck with criminals.

My father's youngest (and only surviving sibling) brother, my Uncle Freddy lives Southside and I have a great time when I visit him. I also engage with Chicago PD every chance I get. They have tons of great officers.




And thank you for your efforts to make the city better, safer.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr Downtown
Date: August 01, 2022 08:52PM
Not that actual facts are the point in a discussion like this, but shootings are down 20% from last year. I'm the guy who maps them all for the city's primary violence reduction organization.





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/01/2022 08:53PM by Mr Downtown.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 01, 2022 09:32PM
to this thread's originator...

...ya missed one
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: August West
Date: August 01, 2022 11:27PM
Hope your getting all those numbers with a Mac, Mr Downtown! wink smiley



“There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why they’re falling in."
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 02, 2022 05:03AM
Pretty clever, Mr Downtown, but I can see right through your plan to introduce actual facts.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 02, 2022 07:03AM
Not that actual facts are the point in a discussion like this, but shootings are down 20% from last year. I'm the guy who maps them all for the city's primary violence reduction organization.


So unknowingly but factually accurate, his subject line is correct, for a change.

A 20% rededication is really good!






I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/2022 07:04AM by RAMd®d.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: August 02, 2022 07:17PM
Only 1900 people shot down from 2450
WINNING!!!

Through July 2019 the count was 1300
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 02, 2022 08:16PM
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Mr645
Only 1900 people shot down from 2450
WINNING!!!

Through July 2019 the count was 1300

Nirvana fallacy – solutions to problems are rejected because they are not perfect.
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Re: Chicago off to a good start
Posted by: Mr645
Date: August 03, 2022 05:53AM
I don't call only 1900 people shot a solution.
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