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The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: August 14, 2022 09:09PM
Was talking to my pharmacist. She said that if you've had two booster doses, there's no authorization for another.

Didn't make sense to me as it would seem that with waning resistance at the 4 month mark we'd be coming up on the right time for people to get some protection for the fall, and the CDC director was just talking about 3rd boosters.

But I was wrong:

[www.fda.gov]

No more boosters. Not even recommended for the immune-compromised.

(I assume that a doctor can prescribe it, but all of the doctors I've spoken to recently have told me that they're no longer receiving doses at their offices/hospitals.)



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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 14, 2022 10:06PM
Seems like the overall expectation is that everyone will eventually catch C19. Keep tests on hand and get acquainted with Paxlovid. People I know that have used Paxlovid say it worked very well for them.



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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: GGD
Date: August 14, 2022 10:10PM
Here's my understanding of the strategy. They're hoping for earlier availability of new formulation boosters that are effective against BA.4 and BA.5, and that's the booster they want everyone to get as soon as it's available. They'd rather have people wait for the new one rather than getting another dose of the one that's less effective that would also put those people on a delayed schedule (timing between doses) for getting the newer more effective one.

[www.npr.org]

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But letting more people get boosted with the original vaccine now could interfere with plans to boost them with updated, hopefully more protective vaccines in the fall to blunt the toll of the winter surge.

That's why the administration is considering shifting the focus to the next generation of boosters. Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech were already scrambling to comply with the FDA's request to get new, hopefully more powerful "bivalent" boosters ready by October or November that target both the original strain of the virus and omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5.

The FDA is trying to get the companies to make those shots available even sooner — possibly as soon as September, according to a federal official familiar with the situation who is not authorized to talk about it publicly. The possible shift was first reported by The Washington Post.

If the bivalent boosters can be accelerated, the FDA would skip opening up fourth shots of the original vaccines this summer and just wait for the new double-barreled omicron vaccines in the fall.
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: August 14, 2022 11:28PM
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GGD
Here's my understanding of the strategy. They're hoping for earlier availability of new formulation boosters that are effective against BA.4 and BA.5, and that's the booster they want everyone to get as soon as it's available. They'd rather have people wait for the new one die now than later.

FTFY.



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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 14, 2022 11:31PM
As if getting two boosters a couple months apart would kill you. RollingEyesSmiley5
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 14, 2022 11:35PM
Whip out your extra CDC vaccination card.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/14/2022 11:42PM by Speedy.
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 14, 2022 11:39PM
I think one of the primary arguments against continuing boosters past 4 is that there are diminishing returns. I'm happy to hear otherwise.

Anyway, did you find it difficult to become an immunologist, then a Ukraine expert, and then back to being an immunologist?



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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 14, 2022 11:48PM
They are afraid your immune system will try to attack any new infection with less effective B and T cell responses suited to the earlier strains rather than reacting to the newer strains - if you keep training your immune system with old vaccines.



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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 15, 2022 06:35AM
So we are not supposed to drink bleach anymore?



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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: Mr645
Date: August 15, 2022 06:45AM
If boosters worked......



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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: gadje
Date: August 15, 2022 07:22AM
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Mr645
If boosters worked......

I hope you didn't get ANY vaccine.
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 15, 2022 07:31AM
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Mr645
If boosters worked......

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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 15, 2022 08:13AM
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GGD
Here's my understanding of the strategy. They're hoping for earlier availability of new formulation boosters that are effective against BA.4 and BA.5, and that's the booster they want everyone to get as soon as it's available. They'd rather have people wait for the new one rather than getting another dose of the one that's less effective that would also put those people on a delayed schedule (timing between doses) for getting the newer more effective one.

[www.npr.org]

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But letting more people get boosted with the original vaccine now could interfere with plans to boost them with updated, hopefully more protective vaccines in the fall to blunt the toll of the winter surge.

That's why the administration is considering shifting the focus to the next generation of boosters. Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech were already scrambling to comply with the FDA's request to get new, hopefully more powerful "bivalent" boosters ready by October or November that target both the original strain of the virus and omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5.

The FDA is trying to get the companies to make those shots available even sooner — possibly as soon as September, according to a federal official familiar with the situation who is not authorized to talk about it publicly. The possible shift was first reported by The Washington Post.

If the bivalent boosters can be accelerated, the FDA would skip opening up fourth shots of the original vaccines this summer and just wait for the new double-barreled omicron vaccines in the fall.

Just to add...the UK govt announced today that they have approved Moderna's new bivalent vaccine, which protects well against original COVID and Omicron. They call it a booster in the announcement.

Hopefully FDA and CDC will follow swiftly.
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: PeterB
Date: August 15, 2022 08:36AM
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AllGold
As if getting two boosters a couple months apart would kill you. RollingEyesSmiley5

I'd gotten a booster in June, on the presumption that they might or not come out with a new booster for BA.4 and .5, and also because it had been eight months since my last vaccination. I'm almost certain that if a new booster comes out, my immunologist will recommend that I get it, regardless of whether it's 4 months later or not...




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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: abevilac
Date: August 15, 2022 09:01AM
Thé UK just authorized a new booster that covers omicron too. Maybe fda will follow ?
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 15, 2022 10:42AM
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Ombligo
So we are not supposed to drink bleach anymore?

That got kinda expensive anyway...



It is what it is.
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 15, 2022 03:32PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Ombligo
So we are not supposed to drink bleach anymore?

That got kinda expensive anyway...

Dude. Costco.



Hurts like a bastid...
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 15, 2022 04:53PM
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mrbigstuff
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Ombligo
So we are not supposed to drink bleach anymore?

That got kinda expensive anyway...

Dude. Costco.

ROTFL
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 15, 2022 05:12PM
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mrbigstuff
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Ombligo
So we are not supposed to drink bleach anymore?

That got kinda expensive anyway...

Dude. Costco.

I was referring more to the doctor bills.



It is what it is.
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: bfd
Date: August 15, 2022 08:15PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Ombligo
So we are not supposed to drink bleach anymore?

That got kinda expensive anyway...

Crap. Just bought a gallon jug for this winter…
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Re: The FDA has not authorized a booster dose for the fall...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 15, 2022 08:21PM
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bfd
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Ombligo
So we are not supposed to drink bleach anymore?

That got kinda expensive anyway...

Crap. Just bought a gallon jug for this winter…

Same here but it was the store brand so I'll just settle for cleaner toilets



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2022 08:24PM by RgrF.
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