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Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 26, 2022 08:25PM
Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens
[apnews.com]

things are getting worse. U.K. residents will see an 80% increase in their annual household energy bills, the country’s energy regulator announced Friday, following a record 54% spike in April. That will bring costs for the average customer from 1,971 pounds ($2,332) a year to 3,549 pounds.

The latest price cap — the maximum amount that gas suppliers can charge customers per unit of energy — will take effect Oct. 1, just as the cold months set in. And bills are expected to rise again in January to 4,000 pounds.

To blame for the increase is the soaring price of wholesale natural gas triggered by Russia’s war in Ukraine, which is driving up consumer prices and roiling economies across Europe that rely on the fuel for heating homes and generating electricity.

That includes the United Kingdom, which has the highest inflation rate among the Group of Seven wealthiest democracies and seen disruptive strikes for months as workers push for pay to keep pace with the increasingly expensive cost of living.

The energy increases, together with rapidly rising food costs, are expected to push inflation above the 40-year high of 10.1% recorded in July and trigger a recession later this year, the Bank of England has predicted. Charities, public health leaders and even energy firms warn of catastrophic effects on poorer people already struggling to afford essentials as wages lag behind.

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Britain’s Conservative government is under heavy pressure to do more to help people and businesses — and fast. Authorities have said they’re sending around 1,200 pounds to low-income people. Every household, no matter their financial situation, will get 400 pounds off their energy bills this winter.
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Unions across multiple key sectors have reacted by going on strike to demand pay raises that keep pace with inflation.
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Meanwhile, a grassroots movement called “Don’t Pay” is campaigning to gather 1 million people who will commit to not paying their energy bills on Oct. 1 if the price hike goes ahead. The group is hoping that mass nonpayment will force energy firms to end the crisis.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 26, 2022 09:12PM
Yeah, this is going to be fascinating / terrible. I just hope they find a 'fair' way to share the burden - for the upper and upper middle class this is merely annoying. For the poor this can be life threatening.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 26, 2022 09:16PM
Sharing the load isn't a British tradition.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: Rolando
Date: August 26, 2022 09:46PM
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RgrF
Sharing the load isn't a British tradition.

They do a good job with Health (compared to the US)



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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: $tevie
Date: August 26, 2022 09:49PM
I want to ask the GOP how Biden is the cause of this. Since they blame him for energy prices over here.



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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 26, 2022 09:57PM
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Rolando
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RgrF
Sharing the load isn't a British tradition.

They do a good job with Health (compared to the US)

From what I read in the British papers of all stripes, the NHS screws up a lot, there's a long wait for appointments and surgery floats out in the distant future.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: August 26, 2022 10:05PM
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Steve G.
From what I read in the British papers of all stripes, the NHS screws up a lot, there's a long wait for appointments and surgery floats out in the distant future.

How is that different from here?

The wait is 4-6 months to get an appointment with a specialist, I have to argue for coverage from my insurance company, have to schedule major surgery two or more months in advance except when I'm admitted through the emergency room and half the time I get a call from a nurse a month out to reschedule because the doctor decided to take the month off for a vacation.



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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: bfd
Date: August 26, 2022 10:43PM
When all of Europe is in the deep freeze this winter because the slumlords in Russia turn off their gas, we'll see just how much support Ukraine gets then. Could be really bad over there, and it could be what Russia counts on as this grinds on.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 26, 2022 11:41PM
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bfd
When all of Europe is in the deep freeze this winter because the slumlords in Russia turn off their gas, we'll see just how much support Ukraine gets then. Could be really bad over there, and it could be what Russia counts on as this grinds on.

Yup. No one likes the long slog.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 26, 2022 11:42PM
Also, "let's go, Brandon!" should work really well in this instance for the big thinkers.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: August 27, 2022 08:41AM
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Steve G.

From what I read in the British papers of all stripes, the NHS screws up a lot, there's a long wait for appointments and surgery floats out in the distant future.

My father (in the UK) and I used to compare notes. My US experience was worse than his NHS experience.

US insurance companies, Medicaid, and Medicare screw up, and there's an absurdly long wait for appointments.
In my area, examples are:
- 1 year for "stat" pulmonary consult (Medicaid)
- 6 months for urgent cardiology consult (Blue Cross)
- essentially never for rheumatology consult (any insurance you can imagine)
- 3 weeks for cardiology assistance for a patient with rapidly accelerating unstable angina over the course of a few days, now unable to walk more than 3 feet (VA)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2022 08:42AM by S. Pupp.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 27, 2022 09:08AM
The NHS has been intentionally starved of funds by a government that wants privitization of healthcare. And by lack of staff made worse by Brexit.

A familiar sounding tale...
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 27, 2022 10:18AM
The NHS is talked about much the same way social security is here - while some jabber on about it’s imminent collapse, many more depend upon it daily



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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: davester
Date: August 27, 2022 11:51AM
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RgrF
Sharing the load isn't a British tradition.

That's utter nonsense and the opposite of what's generally true.

More true: "Sharing the load isn't an American tradition."



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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 27, 2022 12:25PM
From people I know living in England, they all deride the NHS, probably as we deride Medicare, etc. and complain about wait times. But outside of that I don't have any direct comparison.
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 27, 2022 03:21PM
Is there an actual shortage of natural gas or is it just opportunism by the energy companies?
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: Ted King
Date: August 28, 2022 06:55AM
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AllGold
Is there an actual shortage of natural gas or is it just opportunism by the energy companies?

Yes.



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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: testcase
Date: August 28, 2022 09:27PM
I expect that the famed British "stiff upper lip" is something NOT embraced by the typically entitled Millennials. old fogey smiley
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Re: Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens (Yikes!)
Posted by: Acer
Date: August 28, 2022 11:22PM
Pretty sure members of every generation of British are flapping their upper lips at these increases.
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