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DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 14, 2022 07:09PM
NEW: Officials with the Town of West Tisbury are saying right now there are at least 50 people from Texas who have been essentially SHIPPED (flown and left on) to Martha's Vineyard.

Apparently, two more plane loads of people are expected to arrive in the coming days.


This from a WGBH tweet that's not linked. FOX has it as well.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: September 14, 2022 07:12PM
Apparently he's spending $12 million on this, AIUI.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 14, 2022 07:12PM
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RgrF
NEW: Officials with the Town of West Tisbury are saying right now there are at least 50 people from Texas who have been essentially SHIPPED (flown and left on) to Martha's Vineyard.

Apparently, two more plane loads of people are expected to arrive in the coming days.


This from a WGBH tweet that's not linked. FOX has it as well.

Why is DeSantis shipping people from Texas instead of from Florida? Did Florida run out of shippable people?
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 14, 2022 07:17PM
What the @#$%& is wrong with elected officials today?



It is what it is.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 14, 2022 07:20PM
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GGD
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RgrF
NEW: Officials with the Town of West Tisbury are saying right now there are at least 50 people from Texas who have been essentially SHIPPED (flown and left on) to Martha's Vineyard.

Apparently, two more plane loads of people are expected to arrive in the coming days.


This from a WGBH tweet that's not linked. FOX has it as well.

Why is DeSantis shipping people from Texas instead of from Florida? Did Florida run out of shippable people?

Florida needs immigrants to tend the landscaping, housekeep for all the old people and such. Also, they don't want to accidentally ship out someone related to a Cuban exile family, they vote Republican.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Fritz
Date: September 14, 2022 07:24PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
What the f'k is wrong with elected officials today?

ain' nothing wrong with elected o-fistulas today.
it's the electorate that is f'd in the head.

if we (western civilization) had taken the hint around the Coup of '52, gotten off the fossil fuel teet and began developing alternative energy in earnest ....
Would there have been, an Iraq, Iran, 9/11, Afghanistan ..... or as much of a fleeing immigrant issue around the world.?



!#$@@$#!

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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: testcase
Date: September 14, 2022 10:00PM
Why shouldn't Democratic LaLa Lands have to deal with the same problems their ritzy residents expect border towns to deal with? dunno smiley
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 14, 2022 10:31PM
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testcase
Why shouldn't Democratic LaLa Lands have to deal with the same problems their ritzy residents expect border towns to deal with? dunno smiley

In a way I agree, but there's purposefully zero coordination. They're purposefully being pains in the ass.



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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 14, 2022 11:09PM
It's a myth that northern states, because of their distance from borders (at least southern borders) do not already deal with undocumented immigrants. But I will say that most who travel north, seem to have their stuff together perhaps a little more so, and tend to find employment quite easily. I've worked alongside many central and south Americans over the decades.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 14, 2022 11:15PM
MA already has its own undocumented immigrants, you don't hear as much about it as from other regions. The zero coordination and deliberately choosing to drop them off on the island where there is listed resources to work with the people just dropped off.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Mr645
Date: September 15, 2022 06:03AM
Just sending them to sanctuary cities where these people should feel welcome and treated with open arms.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 15, 2022 06:13AM
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Mr645
Just sending them to sanctuary cities where these people should feel welcome and treated with open arms.

Those must be the cities where people who follow the teachings of Christ live.

As opposed to "christians," who are that in name only.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Rolando
Date: September 15, 2022 06:45AM
Charge him and pilots/drivers with human trafficking.



San Antonio, TX (in the old city)


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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 15, 2022 06:56AM
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GGD
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RgrF
NEW: Officials with the Town of West Tisbury are saying right now there are at least 50 people from Texas who have been essentially SHIPPED (flown and left on) to Martha's Vineyard.

Apparently, two more plane loads of people are expected to arrive in the coming days.


This from a WGBH tweet that's not linked. FOX has it as well.

Why is DeSantis shipping people from Texas instead of from Florida? Did Florida run out of shippable people?

As with those on the buses, these were legal immigrants who were in state-custody. Others are in federal custody.

My guess is that the feds have started blocking these kidnappings by taking jurisdiction over more cases and tying things up in the courts so the republican governors are now grabbing whomever they can whenever they can to keep the show going.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2022 06:56AM by Tiangou.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: September 15, 2022 06:57AM
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WaPo

Fernandes said residents “jumped into action” to provide 50 beds, meals and health-care support after the group including children was dropped off with “no notice.”

Yeah, because those residents aren’t deplorable.

Meanwhile, regressives keep announcing their hatred of mankind, couched in their permanent (and fake) self-victimhood.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Mr645
Date: September 15, 2022 07:04AM
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Lux Interior
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Mr645
Just sending them to sanctuary cities where these people should feel welcome and treated with open arms.

Those must be the cities where people who follow the teachings of Christ live.

As opposed to "christians," who are that in name only.

I wouldn't know, I'm Jewish
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 15, 2022 08:02AM
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Mr645
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Lux Interior
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Mr645
Just sending them to sanctuary cities where these people should feel welcome and treated with open arms.

Those must be the cities where people who follow the teachings of Christ live.

As opposed to "christians," who are that in name only.

I wouldn't know, I'm Jewish

I heard Jesus was, too.

FYI, you don't have to be a christian to be a decent human being, which is what it boils down to.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 15, 2022 08:22AM
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Rolando
Charge him and pilots/drivers with human trafficking.

Exploitation for sure.

This is so sick. The people of MV will do a good job taking care of these people but what an imhumane stunt, not to mention huge waste of public resources.

[www.wgbh.org]



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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 15, 2022 08:56AM
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testcase
Why shouldn't Democratic LaLa Lands have to deal with the same problems their ritzy residents expect border towns to deal with? dunno smiley

Our average-sized state of Minnesota (another “Democratic LaLa land” in a sea of Red) has the largest population of Hmong refugees (Laotian mountain people that supported us in the Vietnam war) as well as Somalis in the US. Also increasing numbers of latinos, Tibetans, Karen, and other groups.

When people flee for their lives and arrive destitute, we step up.

What do Florida and Texas do?



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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 15, 2022 09:07AM
This bit of political theater is EVIL. Straight up. What's next ? Wall off NYC and parachute them in there ?
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: testcase
Date: September 15, 2022 09:39AM
"When people flee for their lives and arrive destitute, we step up.

What do Florida and Texas do?"


Ummmm, absorb and deal with the 99% of FELONS er illegals that you're NOT "stepping up" for?
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 15, 2022 09:47AM
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testcase
"When people flee for their lives and arrive destitute, we step up.

What do Florida and Texas do?"


Ummmm, absorb and deal with the 99% of FELONS er illegals that you're NOT "stepping up" for?

Don't seem to be doing a very good job of it. And you are making a big assumption that we are not "stepping up". Biggest group opposing immigration reform is from the Southern states.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: btfc
Date: September 15, 2022 10:25AM
“ absorb and deal with the 99% of FELONS er illegals that you're NOT "stepping up" for? “


Now THAT is a steaming pile of puppy poo.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: September 15, 2022 10:25AM
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Lux Interior
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Mr645
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Lux Interior
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Mr645
Just sending them to sanctuary cities where these people should feel welcome and treated with open arms.

Those must be the cities where people who follow the teachings of Christ live.

As opposed to "christians," who are that in name only.

I wouldn't know, I'm Jewish

I heard Jesus was, too.

FYI, you don't have to be a christian to be a decent human being, which is what it boils down to.

Maybe spell it out a little more, using words that directly and only apply to Mr645. That seems to be the demand.

Later, he can let us all know that because he doesn't live in Martha's Vineyard/FL/TX/whatever, none of this means anything.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 15, 2022 12:07PM
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testcase
"When people flee for their lives and arrive destitute, we step up.

What do Florida and Texas do?"


Ummmm, absorb and deal with the 99% of FELONS er illegals that you're NOT "stepping up" for?

Which can change on a dime in 53 days.

Beto
Charlie

Do it!
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 15, 2022 12:14PM
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testcase
"When people flee for their lives and arrive destitute, we step up.

What do Florida and Texas do?"

Ummmm, absorb and deal with the 99% of FELONS er illegals that you're NOT "stepping up" for?

Actually, California has more illegal undocumented immigrants than Texas and Florida combined.

Also, most (>60%) undocumented immigrants these days don’t come over the border; they arrive at lots of places, by many different modes of transportation, and overstay their visas.

And they’re not felons. In fact, many are not even illegal.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 15, 2022 01:16PM
In case anyone doubts that this is pure political theater with vulnerable humans as props, today Gov. Abbott dumped 2 busloads of immigrants at the residence of the VP in Washington.

[www.cnn.com]

And this crime is kidnapping and inveigling.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 15, 2022 01:19PM
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Lemon Drop
In case anyone doubts that this is pure political theater with vulnerable humans as props, today Gov. Abbott dumped 2 busloads of immigrants at the residence of the VP in Washington.

[www.cnn.com]

And this crime is kidnapping and inveigling.

The levels of corruptive malfeasance is so breathtaking that it's hard to put together a proper reaction.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 15, 2022 02:01PM
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vision63
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Lemon Drop
In case anyone doubts that this is pure political theater with vulnerable humans as props, today Gov. Abbott dumped 2 busloads of immigrants at the residence of the VP in Washington.

[www.cnn.com]

And this crime is kidnapping and inveigling.

The levels of corruptive malfeasance is so breathtaking that it's hard to put together a proper reaction.

It is.
Imagine having so little empathy for these people that you treat them like this.
I mean family separation was much worse, but this runs in the same vein of deliberate cruelty.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: graylocks
Date: September 15, 2022 02:22PM
The JFK library posted on twitter about Reverse Freedom Rides in 1963.

Ain't nothing new under the burning sun in the racist playbook.



"Success isn't about how much money you make. It is about the difference you make in people's lives."--Michelle Obama
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 15, 2022 02:53PM
BTW, do you know which state - Texas or Massachusetts - has a higher percentage of residents who were not born in the US?

If you answered Texas, you’d be wrong.

Psst: Also, of the top 10 states so ranked, only Texas (#8) and Florida (#4) are not deep Blue states. Of the bottom 10, 9 are deep Red (the 10th is Maine).

Bet you didn’t know “Liberal LaLa land” was where most first-gen immigrants are (and settle). But it’s true.

They just don’t whine incessantly about it.



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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: September 15, 2022 02:57PM
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graylocks
The JFK library posted on twitter about Reverse Freedom Rides in 1963.

Ain't nothing new under the burning sun in the racist playbook.

I visited that last Friday. Nice place, and inspirational.
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Ted King
Date: September 15, 2022 03:54PM
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pdq
BTW, do you know which state - Texas or Massachusetts - has a higher percentage of residents who were not born in the US?

If you answered Texas, you’d be wrong.

Psst: Also, of the top 10 states so ranked, only Texas (#8) and Florida (#4) are not deep Blue states. Of the bottom 10, 9 are deep Red (the 10th is Maine).

Bet you didn’t know “Liberal LaLa land” was where most first-gen immigrants are (and settle). But it’s true.

They just don’t whine incessantly about it.

Thanks for that information. I had no idea.



e pluribus unum
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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 15, 2022 06:46PM
The big question is, will these new residents invite Alan Dershowitz to their parties?



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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 15, 2022 06:48PM
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graylocks
The JFK library posted on twitter about Reverse Freedom Rides in 1963.

Ain't nothing new under the burning sun in the racist playbook.
Thanks for that link. I don't believe I've ever heard about this before.



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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 15, 2022 06:59PM
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Mr645
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Lux Interior
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Mr645
Just sending them to sanctuary cities where these people should feel welcome and treated with open arms.

Those must be the cities where people who follow the teachings of Christ live.

As opposed to "christians," who are that in name only.

I wouldn't know, I'm Jewish

So, maybe try and be a mensch about this for once?



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Re: DeSantis one ups Abbott, flys 2 plane loads of migrants to Martha's Vinyard.
Posted by: hal
Date: September 16, 2022 05:26PM
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