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The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: samintx
Date: September 15, 2022 05:33PM
[www.npr.org]

So cruel. Just as the blacks in the NPR ARTICLE were promised homes,jobs anew life for their families the arch demon de Santos is deporting immigrants to Martha Vinyard with no preparation or organization. Abbott has been doing his part too.

That NPR article is heartbreaking.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2022 06:32PM by samintx.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: graylocks
Date: September 15, 2022 06:13PM
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samintx
[www.npr.org]

So cruel. Just as the blacks in the NPR ARTICLE were promised homes,jobs anew life for their families the arch demon de Santos is deporting immigrants to Martha Vinyard with no preparation or organization.

actually it’s more racist conservatives replaying that game. back in the 60s it was most likely southern democrats.



"Success isn't about how much money you make. It is about the difference you make in people's lives."--Michelle Obama
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 15, 2022 08:56PM
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graylocks
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samintx
[www.npr.org]

So cruel. Just as the blacks in the NPR ARTICLE were promised homes,jobs anew life for their families the arch demon de Santos is deporting immigrants to Martha Vinyard with no preparation or organization.

actually it’s more racist conservatives replaying that game. back in the 60s it was most likely southern democrats.

Back in the ‘60s, Southern Democrats WERE racist conservatives.



It is what it is.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 15, 2022 09:02PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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graylocks
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samintx
[www.npr.org]

So cruel. Just as the blacks in the NPR ARTICLE were promised homes,jobs anew life for their families the arch demon de Santos is deporting immigrants to Martha Vinyard with no preparation or organization.

actually it’s more racist conservatives replaying that game. back in the 60s it was most likely southern democrats.

Back in the ‘60s, Southern Democrats WERE racist conservatives.

And they got their asses whipped. Everything they wanted to do to stop us failed. We defeated them. 1954 to 1964 was a nightmare of epic proportions for them. Now their effing grandchildren are trying to roll back the calendar. They're going to lose this time too.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: graylocks
Date: September 15, 2022 09:43PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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graylocks
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samintx
[www.npr.org]

So cruel. Just as the blacks in the NPR ARTICLE were promised homes,jobs anew life for their families the arch demon de Santos is deporting immigrants to Martha Vinyard with no preparation or organization.

actually it’s more racist conservatives replaying that game. back in the 60s it was most likely southern democrats.

Back in the ‘60s, Southern Democrats WERE racist conservatives.

that was my point.



"Success isn't about how much money you make. It is about the difference you make in people's lives."--Michelle Obama



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2022 09:44PM by graylocks.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 15, 2022 10:15PM
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vision63
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N-OS X-tasy!
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graylocks
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samintx
[www.npr.org]

So cruel. Just as the blacks in the NPR ARTICLE were promised homes,jobs anew life for their families the arch demon de Santos is deporting immigrants to Martha Vinyard with no preparation or organization.

actually it’s more racist conservatives replaying that game. back in the 60s it was most likely southern democrats.

Back in the ‘60s, Southern Democrats WERE racist conservatives.

And they got their asses whipped. Everything they wanted to do to stop us failed. We defeated them. 1954 to 1964 was a nightmare of epic proportions for them. Now their effing grandchildren are trying to roll back the calendar. They're going to lose this time too.

That faction of the Democrats left to support Wallace or the GOP after LBJ pushed through the Voting Rights Act and other legislation. Nixon and Reagan actively courted their votes. Have to remember he also was a Southern Democrat.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: Ted King
Date: September 16, 2022 07:44AM
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JoeH
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vision63
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N-OS X-tasy!
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graylocks
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samintx
[www.npr.org]

So cruel. Just as the blacks in the NPR ARTICLE were promised homes,jobs anew life for their families the arch demon de Santos is deporting immigrants to Martha Vinyard with no preparation or organization.

actually it’s more racist conservatives replaying that game. back in the 60s it was most likely southern democrats.

Back in the ‘60s, Southern Democrats WERE racist conservatives.

And they got their asses whipped. Everything they wanted to do to stop us failed. We defeated them. 1954 to 1964 was a nightmare of epic proportions for them. Now their effing grandchildren are trying to roll back the calendar. They're going to lose this time too.

That faction of the Democrats left to support Wallace or the GOP after LBJ pushed through the Voting Rights Act and other legislation. Nixon and Reagan actively courted their votes. Have to remember he also was a Southern Democrat.

[www.wsj.com]

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The House voted 290 to 130 in favor. Democrats split their vote 152 (61%) to 96 (39%) while Republicans split theirs 138 (80%) to 34 (20%). The no vote consisted of 74% Democrats.

Nixon and Reagan led the way and there was a general effort by the whole Republican Party to gain power in the South that not only involved welcoming Party switches (Democrat to Republican) but also disgusting smear campaigns against Democrats still in Congress from the South that embraced Civil Rights. Like Max Cleland:



Truly shameful what Republicans did to him.



e pluribus unum
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 16, 2022 07:45AM
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One Venezuelan migrant who arrived at Martha's Vineyard…said he and nine relatives were promised a flight to Massachusetts, along with shelter, support for 90 days, help with work permits and English lessons. He said they were surprised when their flight landed on an island.

He said the promises came from a woman who gave her name as "Perla" who approached his family on the street outside a San Antonio shelter after they crossed from Mexico and U.S. border authorities released them with an immigration court date.

He said the woman, who also put them up in a hotel, did not provide a last name or any affiliation, but asked them to sign a liability waiver.

"We are scared," he said, adding he and others felt they were lied to. "I hope they give us help."

Wow. This is pretty low.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 16, 2022 07:57AM
This is very calculated on a number of levels, not the least that these folks are Black, and do not have a natural community to join (the closest is that there are a fair number of Columbians in the area).
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 16, 2022 09:10AM
CNN has an odd piece this morning (“The surprising details behind DeSantis’ and Abbott’s immigration stunts“) that includes the following:

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For starters, many of the migrants were appreciative of the ride.

Really. Huh. To Martha’s Vinyard. An island, well removed from any family or contacts the immigrants might have in the country.

> : /

Well, let’s be fair. What did the Martha’s Vinyard immigrants tell him?

Let’s see. Umm…well, nothing. His piece doesn’t mention talking to any of them. About the closest he comes is referencing a guy the NYT talked to who was picked up in San Antonio:

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It was there that he was approached and asked if he wanted to go to Massachusetts. It’s not clear if he knew he was headed to a wealthy island community unprepared for the arrivals.

It’s not clear”. Well, that’s being generous. Reporters who actually talked to these people say they were not told they were going to MV, and were alarmed to find themselves on an island that did not have the jobs some of them were promised.

Other little bits too:

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Are these migrants in the country illegally?

These stunts by Republican governors are built on the false idea that the migrants are in the country illegally. Technically, those on the buses and planes are asylum-seekers who have been processed by federal immigration authorities and are awaiting court dates.

(“Technically”). RollingEyesSmiley5

So, couldn’t you just answer your own question, plainly? No. These are asylum-seekers who are in the country legally while they wait to plead their case for asylum before an immigration judge.

There. Would that be so hard?

Maybe I’m being too sensitive, but I wonder if this is part of CNN’s recent push toward both-sides-ism.

I would write this reporter and/or CNN, but I can’t find contact info.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: deckeda
Date: September 16, 2022 09:40AM
Anytime immigration is involved, it’s a safe bet Republicans effed it up a huge way, with anyone and everyone paying the price.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: btfc
Date: September 16, 2022 09:44AM
“ contact info “

Facebook and Twitter:

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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: TheCaber
Date: September 16, 2022 09:49AM
So, it's OK to do human trafficking if you are a Republican governor (FL or TX or ...)?
I thought it was a Federal felony to forcibly relocate people for immoral purposes, but IOKIYAR ?

Well, the steaming pile of dog poo that is running the state has really scored big.

Grrrrr.



=TC
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 16, 2022 01:45PM
One aspect of this that has been missed is that the Venezuelans DeSantis shipped around were fleeing a communist country, which is kind of a hallowed activity in Florida:

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Local Venezuelan leaders and other immigration advocates gathered in Doral where they denounced what they call DeSantis' blatant disregard for human life and the lies he told to the Cuban and Venezuelan communities. They point to a September 7th press conference in Miami where they said he promised that neither Cubans nor Venezuelans would be sent out of the state.

Well, sometimes you gotta break some eggs to own the libs, amirite?

And again:

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Taryn Fenske, the governor's spokesperson, told Fox News Digital that the planes were part of the state's relocation program to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations."

Unless these refugees had lost their cases in court, or had overstayed visas, they weren’t illegal.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 16, 2022 01:49PM
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pdq
CNN has an odd piece this morning (“The surprising details behind DeSantis’ and Abbott’s immigration stunts“) that includes the following:

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For starters, many of the migrants were appreciative of the ride.

Really. Huh. To Martha’s Vinyard. An island, well removed from any family or contacts the immigrants might have in the country.

> : /

Well, let’s be fair. What did the Martha’s Vinyard immigrants tell him?

Let’s see. Umm…well, nothing. His piece doesn’t mention talking to any of them. About the closest he comes is referencing a guy the NYT talked to who was picked up in San Antonio:

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It was there that he was approached and asked if he wanted to go to Massachusetts. It’s not clear if he knew he was headed to a wealthy island community unprepared for the arrivals.

It’s not clear”. Well, that’s being generous. Reporters who actually talked to these people say they were not told they were going to MV, and were alarmed to find themselves on an island that did not have the jobs some of them were promised.

Other little bits too:

Quote

Are these migrants in the country illegally?

These stunts by Republican governors are built on the false idea that the migrants are in the country illegally. Technically, those on the buses and planes are asylum-seekers who have been processed by federal immigration authorities and are awaiting court dates.

(“Technically”). RollingEyesSmiley5

So, couldn’t you just answer your own question, plainly? No. These are asylum-seekers who are in the country legally while they wait to plead their case for asylum before an immigration judge.

There. Would that be so hard?

Maybe I’m being too sensitive, but I wonder if this is part of CNN’s recent push toward both-sides-ism.

I would write this reporter and/or CNN, but I can’t find contact info.

CNN reports these days are tending to be a bit light on substance. Under its new head, and after his dismissal of some on air talent, it looks like he wants CNN to be more "balanced". In practice it is looking more like Faux News "Fair and Balanced".
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 16, 2022 06:01PM
I worked there for 18 years, here's what's happening at CNN,
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 16, 2022 09:25PM
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pdq
One aspect of this that has been missed is that the Venezuelans DeSantis shipped around were fleeing a communist country, which is kind of a hallowed activity in Florida:

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Local Venezuelan leaders and other immigration advocates gathered in Doral where they denounced what they call DeSantis' blatant disregard for human life and the lies he told to the Cuban and Venezuelan communities. They point to a September 7th press conference in Miami where they said he promised that neither Cubans nor Venezuelans would be sent out of the state.

Well technically he did not send them out of the state. They were never in Florida to be sent out of it.



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.” -- François de La Rochefoucauld

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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: RgrF
Date: September 16, 2022 09:54PM
But he did misappropriate state funds. Let him take it out of his campaign war chest.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 17, 2022 07:39AM
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Ombligo
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pdq
One aspect of this that has been missed is that the Venezuelans DeSantis shipped around were fleeing a communist country, which is kind of a hallowed activity in Florida:

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Local Venezuelan leaders and other immigration advocates gathered in Doral where they denounced what they call DeSantis' blatant disregard for human life and the lies he told to the Cuban and Venezuelan communities. They point to a September 7th press conference in Miami where they said he promised that neither Cubans nor Venezuelans would be sent out of the state.

Well technically he did not send them out of the state. They were never in Florida to be sent out of it.

He just paid to send Venezuelan families applying for asylum off on a misrepresented political stunt.

I’m sure his Venezuelan-American constituents will be A-OK with that, then.
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Re: The Republicans are replaying their game but now Hispanics
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 17, 2022 01:33PM
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RgrF
I worked there for 18 years, here's what's happening at CNN,

That thread should be pinned to the top of Twitter. Incredible.
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